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Shackles and the sheriff of Shipley 21-Apr-2011 At 1:25:21 PM Linze

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On 21/04/2011 cruze wrote:
>Of course almost everyone who jumps up and down about toproping off the
>fixed gear also rap-cleans all but the most overhanging sports routes don't
>they?

spot on cruze! 'serious' climbers create plenty of wear that could be avoided but this is never questioned and acted upon by all of the ethical purists. it is easier to blame a few top ropers for buggering the anchors....

Adam, thanks for trying to quantify the impact, but i think the example was maybe a bit wide of the mark... ie i have never seen parties of 4 have two top rope goes each, just aint that sort of place really...they would get chased off by someone waiting to do the route, and, if that case occured, i also would probably suggest that they dont use the anchors.

Bundy - yeah I can see how it is frustrating for those that do contribute that others dont, but contributing should be for its own sake without expectation of 'appreciation'... maybe there is some other aspect of life where people like you and the Sheriff dont carry an extra burden, and so someone else has to pick up the slack...??