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Crag & Route Beta

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Iron Void - some beta please Thursday, 8 July 2010 At 10:26:26 PM IdratherbeclimbingM9

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On 8/07/2010 Tony Dignan wrote:
>is 'clouded queen' a real climb ?

Interesting question.
The climb has been a magnet for those wanting to repeat the 'hardest' aid route at Buffalo, for many years until harder things were put up.
~> I dare say that you, as one of the first ascentionists (although Geoff led the famous consecutive bathooks pitch), experienced the mental difficulty in pushing your limits into the unknown. Everyone since has followed a line that was known to 'go'...

Hmm, a 'real climb' ?
It hasn't been freed yet, though surrounding lines have...
~> Due to the diversity to be found in climbing, in my opinion it is a real climb.