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Climbing kit for sale!

wayned

8-May-2008
4:28:10 PM

Preferknitting

8-May-2008
5:28:24 PM

How about just posting up some pics of the gear on this forum? I must say that this seems dodgy. Your description of your gear isn't very informative and begs the question of whether you really owned the gear.

How long have you had them for?

To be frank I would feel more confident in your honesty as a seller if you posted a picture of the gear so that everyone could see it.

Sorry to be harsh, but just being up front.

wallwombat

8-May-2008
10:12:32 PM

Dude, I think those three ropes are dynamic rather than static ropes.

Chuck Norris

8-May-2008
10:27:12 PM

Bullshit that the gear hasn't been used often.

the wires look manky, your super number one camalot has had to have its trigger wire
re-swaged...(clearly through lack of use???)

Quiz question for you: Do you know which rope in the photo is colloquially known as an RP?

If you can answer that one without calling a friend I'll give you $50 for the lot.

preferknitting

9-May-2008
1:25:30 AM

On 8/05/2008 wallwombat wrote:
>Dude, I think those three ropes are dynamic rather than static ropes.

>Bullshit that the gear hasn't been used often. the wires look manky, your super number one camalot >has had to have its trigger wire re-swaged...(clearly through lack of use???)

Exactly, Either this guy is a dodgy sales man or he's just dodgy...

Does anyone know this dude? He aparantly is an old school climber - so he says.

To Wayne D. No, climbing hasn't changed...it's just that thieves are starting to recognise what this gear is and trying to off load it with little understanding of what it is.

Would others agree? The OP doesn't seem to know what his gear is? Does the rack seem abit suss?

Does anyone recognise this stuff? The cams other than the BD one. Have a close look at the stem - they're rather distinct looking, and the harness? If I'm wrong I sincerely apologise, but if I'm not I would hate to have let it slide.

If it is yours and you're genuine then I'll pay about $50 bucks for the lot as well. You should know It's not worth much more let alone $700!!

wallwombat

9-May-2008
7:22:29 AM

hey, preferknitting, take a deep breath and unhinch ya carckle!

I've said it before, this would be the dumbest place for someone to sell stolen climbing gear. Whoever had the gear stolen, would see it, arrange to buy it back and take Mr Plod with them when the went to make the purchase. Simple. Thieves know that and wouldn't try to sell here.

I agree the gear is not worth $700 but it's worth a fair bit more than $50. - 3 ropes , 11 draws, etc

Wayne's biggest mistake is not splitting the gear up for sale. He'd get rid of it a lot easier and probably make more.

I don't know what some of the things on my rack are called. I probably picked them up on special out of some bargain bin 20 years ago. Big deal. It doesn't make me Ronnie Biggs. Just an old stoner whose memory is shot.

Give the guy a chance. I could be wrong but I reckon we should give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Li

9-May-2008
8:16:24 AM

Hmm...at the risk of getting totally flamed ....*big breath* ......I'm new to this site (have been lurking for a while), and this is the second time I have seen someone trying to sell gear get totally slammed by the people on this site. If the guy is ligit it doesn't give him a really good impression of the kind of community we have here. I agree with wallwombat, I think there are more subtle ways of finding out whether the guy is genuine without going straight for the jugular. There...I've said my piece! I'll just quietly slink back under my rock.

Chalk Free

9-May-2008
8:33:26 AM

On 9/05/2008 wallwombat wrote:
>Give the guy a chance. I could be wrong but I reckon we should give the
>guy the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe so but this stuff has been used plenty

Winston Smith

9-May-2008
8:34:43 AM

Every time someone who is not a gear nerd attempts to sell something on this site the Chockstone Kangaroo Court comes out in full voice and it's a high-pitched, unjustifiably indignant and very insane voice at that.

If some sellers get a few things wrong or can't recite by rote serial numbers on cams or can't remember what brand a rope is then correct them, not harangue them. Their lack of knowledge is possibly an indicator of why they're selling the stuff: they're not so heavily into climbing.

You just can't go accusing people of theft or other heinous crimes without any proof other than your own crazy imaginations. In the real world where people use their real names and face slander and libel laws you wouldn't dare make such claims.

Give Wayne a break. If you look on the Gumtree site he's included an address and phone number.

Wallwombat's logic is, as in the past, pretty sound: if the gear was stolen then this is the last place you’d advertise it.

ajfclark

9-May-2008
9:01:17 AM

On 9/05/2008 Chalk Free wrote:
>Maybe so but this stuff has been used plenty

Maybe so but he never said it wasn't used much, he said it wasn't used often. It could be quite old, used infrequently and still end up very worn couldn't it? I know my other half is always wanting me to get rid of things I don't use often... Like my pinball machine, which is used very rarely but as it was made in 1976 over it's lifetime it's been quite well used.

Preferknitting

9-May-2008
10:52:17 AM

Alright, so I might be wrong but I like to be weary

... especially if buying climbing gear that's supposed to protect. Buying climbing gear isn't like buying a lemon of a car that just breaks down along the highway!

and it's painfull to read about people having their house broken into and climbing gear stolen - everyone here knows how much it costs and how much we cherish the gear that we buy

So, I'll put down my cackles but would like to add... that Even so, those ropes are pretty old - The weave/ pattern and colours seem indicative of the 80's climbing scene. And the harness is like way old - maybe from the 70's.

To profess that your gear is A1 and hardly used is at the least a dodgy salesman tacktic. It's like buying into a car that's a lemon.

Those wanting to buy a second hand rope should know that a rope also comes with a recommended shelf life. Around 5 yers or so. So even if these ropes haven't been used often, they do expire - granted some people may still use it and feel comfortable.

Orwell, you're right, people don't have to know everything about thier gear and memory may fade... but how many climbers (who buy three! ropes) don't know the difference between a static and a dynamic rope? (And also, who profess to know araps?) And also, have listed their most prized possessions (those little brassy things) as 'extras'? I have to say, taht if the seller doesn't know their stuff and claims that their gear is good - then what other things might htey fudge to get a sale? Would you trust your life to gear bought from someone who doesn't know their sh*t and who embellishes?

And the listing of gear isn't even correct.

So I still stand at $50 as an offer. It's obviously been used alot or mistreated (even if it might have been over a period of 10 years) the gear is definitely not virginal.

Capt_mulch

9-May-2008
12:44:03 PM

On 9/05/2008 Li wrote:
>good impression of the kind of community we have here. I agree with wallwombat,

Hey WW, someone agrees with you!!! Is this something to do with climate change? ;-)

Capt_mulch

9-May-2008
1:51:10 PM

Sorry, not a bargain. I could get the whole kit online NEW for $700 (see www.backcountrygear.com). I picked up a nice new rope there (OK, on special) for $120 the other day.

Just in case anyone is interested, they also have Mammut 45litre "Ice" backpacks on sale for about $130 ($299 at MD).

Chalk Free

9-May-2008
5:40:53 PM

On 9/05/2008 ajfclark wrote:
>On 9/05/2008 Chalk Free wrote:
>>Maybe so but this stuff has been used plenty
>
>Maybe so but he never said it wasn't used much, he said it wasn't used
>often. It could be quite old, used infrequently and still end up very
>worn couldn't it? I know my other half is always wanting me to get rid
>of things I don't use often... Like my pinball machine, which is used
>very rarely but as it was made in 1976 over it's lifetime it's been quite
>well used.

Ahh.

It must be first edition

muki

9-May-2008
8:43:01 PM

Hey prefers bitchin, lets get this straight........ you want to buy $50 worth of lemons ?
I think you're sour enough!

Hey wayned, good luck selling what is obviously your gear, as another member of the forum has stated...
Sell it as a job lot with individual prices on single items to attract buyers, that way you'll sell it off, and
maybe left with the stuff that wont sell, like the old ropes, and old harnesses, nylon has a life
expectancy, and anything over that time period is not worth buying even if it has seen little or no action!

Chuck Norris

9-May-2008
10:24:26 PM

On 9/05/2008 wayned wrote:
>Used my mates gear aswell dudes sometimes my gear never saw day light on
>a climbing trip. Its in gc.
>In dec 07 i last used my gear at arraps.my wifes bro was here from Germany
>we showed him arraps did
>some easy stuff on dec crag.the super roks are in gc besides a couple
>of worn ones but i have doubles.
>
>

Love your work. We should get together sometime.

wayned

10-May-2008
4:21:58 PM

Thanks dude, think i mite donate it to friends of the earth.

preferknitting

29-Dec-2008
8:47:29 PM

Hmm.. so why has this person taken the time to erase the photos from this post? I'm still sceptical. Let's call it woman's intuition.

Goldybear

4-Jan-2009
10:17:37 AM

Why did he take the gear off? Perhaps your spray, Prefersknitting, may have had something to do with it. Who would want to subject themselves to this BS. If you dont want the gear, then dont buy it. Pretty straight forward, isnt it.

surfinclimb

5-Jan-2009
7:11:11 AM

I cant believe that you have dug up a post from over 6 months ago just so you can apparently validate your previous rant. P.K take up a hobby or something, I dont know maybe try climbing, I hear its fun

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