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Arapiles campfires last night 24-Feb-2011 At 3:08:00 PM Tommo
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On 24/02/2011 egosan wrote:
>
>Perhaps, the folks singing "You're an Asshole" were beyond the pale, perhaps
>they were just having a good time. That doesn't bother me a tick. I know
>some of those "assholes" and I am happy to share a rope with any of them.
> They live life well. They are kind and generous. Assholes, maybe, but
>my kind of asshole.
>
>Your righteousness, Tommo, the flat judgement you make for the sake of
>one nights sleep, is the thing that concerns me. You bring to mind a Mencken
>quote:
>
>>Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
>
>Come back to the Pines, drink some beer and sing some dirty songs. You
>soul will be better for it. f--- 'em if they can't take joke.
>
>

Wow, some of you folk will just keep sticking up for them. It blows me away. Righteousness? No. I am no stranger to the Pines over the years, and have lived there for several months at a time before, and also stayed in climbers' camps around the world. Within these experiences I have been part of many fire circles, been drunk, made noise, sung along to guitar, made merry, and had a good time. Even at the Pines! As many here may have done too. But I've always tried to be courteous, and put a lid on the shenanigans or removed myself from them if out of my control, when told it was out of place. Claiming acts of blatant selfishness in the name of fun is weak. Very weak. It is claiming superiority over those around you. Your friends that light illegal campfires (yes, it was) and ignore multiple polite requests into the a.m of night, and, let me make this straight - take joy and amusement from distressing others - is weak. Not kind an generous. Perhaps those several weeks of obnoxiousness (for it was not the one time, in form or quantity) were just an unfortunate phase, and your lovely friends now 'live life well' in a 'kind and generous' manner without treading on other folk.

Egosan, like Wendy, I have no bone to pick with you. I was also acquainted with one of the key trouble makers, and have told them my thoughts to their face. Hiding their actions behind a subsequent action (the violence) with cries of foul play is not a fair representation of the story.

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