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Goatfest 2011
duglash
13-Feb-2011
4:37:23 PM
It's on again! Natimuk's climbing film festival Goatfest falls on the Easter weekend this year, Saturday the 23rd of April. There will be two film competitions this time, both with a $200 prize sponsored by Dr Phil of Arapiles Mountain Shop.

Comp 1: Best Australian short film (up to 15 mins) - judged by our largely unqualified panel.

Comp 2: Best mock advertisment - Judged by the audience

There will also be showings of classic cheesy ads that climbers have been involved in over the years (so if you have some shameful material do let us know), and an exposition of how the Anderson Consulting Boulders got their name.

Steve Bell, the first Englishman to guide Mt Everest will give a talk about the incredible challenges of starting a cafe in Natimuk with Simey.

There will be food! There will be alcohol!

It's at the Natimuk Soldier's Memorial Hall, $10 to get in, food and alcohol extra.

Doors open at 6 pm, films start at 7:30 sharp.

The cafe will close for this night but will be open BOTH Friday and Sunday nights.

Any questions ask below or contact
Douglas Hockly
0429871003
design@dugfish.com

Poster coming soon...
Godless
14-Feb-2011
11:05:23 AM
Well, I'm excited. Goat Fest has not failed to entertain or shock in recent years and with a return to the easter slot is sure to be packed.

i would suggest the punters come early.

As Zebedee said, and it's been proven at other Goat Fests "Start early, end ugly."

J.C.
14-Feb-2011
2:55:08 PM
i have some unreleased footage of my mate doing some sweet base soloing (aussie first?) last year... want a peek?
duglash
15-Feb-2011
4:05:07 PM
Sure - can't say I've seen any sweet base soloing, and I doubt I'd like to see any sour base soloing...
duglash
15-Mar-2011
5:48:25 PM
Gordy, as he would say, sucking the corporate cork for (quite a) few dollars in the 90's



If you would like to download the pdf

http://www.dugfish.com/climbing/Goatfest2011.pdf

and print it out and whack it up at your local climbing gym (or crag, or film school), feel free

ChuckNorris
31-Mar-2011
11:25:27 PM
dalglish u certainly get around....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/12919494.stm
satan
1-Apr-2011
9:12:33 AM
dug dreams of being that good a soccer player.
duglash
7-Apr-2011
9:42:38 PM
Funnily enough I dream of being a better climber more often. And crocodiles in muddy water when things are bad.

Hope some people are making films? Hate to have to tear up those prize vouchers.
off_route
9-Apr-2011
5:41:23 AM
I really want to shoot something for this but haven't had time to scratch myself lately.. can send you a roughly 12-minute chapter/short film of alpine trad climbing in NZ from my doco if it's acceptable?? I'm Australian, it's just the film isn't..
duglash
21-Apr-2011
9:22:27 AM
I've got a film! The first one!

If you're keen on winning $200 worth of gear (or seeing more than one film at Goatfest), take a camera to Araps this weekend and shoot something. Make it short! Make it funny! At the moment, you have a damn good chance of winning.

(I thought doubling the prize money from last year would encourage people, clearly it's just put them off.. this non-materialistic aesceticism that's sweeping the climbing world is getting out of control.)

Sarah Gara
21-Apr-2011
10:00:35 PM
hey I've just been coerced into making a film tomorrow... Hopefully there are more on the way. x
duglash
27-Apr-2011
8:13:03 AM
Goatfest went without a hitch this year, much to my surprise. I gave a quick obituary for Col Reece at the start, Steve Bell bagged Simey for 40 minutes (which, as everyone knows, is always good fun), Dave Jones gave a brief history of the origins of the naming of the Anderson's Consulting Boulders and there were six films in the end.. all of which arrived/were made in the last 48 hours. The prizes were won by Balance
http://www.hans-hornberger.com/#487106/Balance-A-slackline-adventure
(People's choice) and Boulderdash (Judges choice - Wendy would you like to put this up on youtube?)

Other very funny films by Matt Adams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl8xeDSSJPU
http://www.youtube.com/user/maddogstudio52#p/u/5/9AkJPwrR0DQ

Thanks for being there and see you next year!

Sabu
27-Apr-2011
8:31:05 AM
Thanks for a great night, we had a blast!
satan
27-Apr-2011
9:25:24 AM
Coerced?
Wendy
27-Apr-2011
10:18:55 AM
On 27/04/2011 duglash wrote:
d Boulderdash (Judges choice - Wendy would you like
>to put this up on youtube?)
>
give it another 269minutes ... and i have the fastest adsl available in nati ...
Wendy
27-Apr-2011
3:11:41 PM
nearly 5 hours later, here tis:

duglash
27-Apr-2011
5:39:27 PM
Thanks Wendy - and good to hear Sabu!
Wendy
3-May-2011
2:02:53 PM
I thought I'd write up a few words of wisdom on the road to success at Goatfest to aid the process of getting a few more films for next year. I started with an impressive list of problems, being:

1: No video camera
2: No editing software nor any idea how to use it
3: No idea about film making

So really, all I started from was just some ideas of a film i'd hypothetically like to make. Really, surely most of you can't be doing any worse than all that? So how do we get around these problems?

Problem 1:
Beg, borrow or steal a camera. Surely you have a friend or reli who bought a camera to film their child's 3rd birthday and never used it again? You're not going to need it for long, only few hours if you avoid all the other pitfalls i fell into. Many digital cameras have a video function, if you have a halfway decent one, you can probably use that. It doesn't have to be a good camera. It's not like we're going to be producing professional work for these exercise. As Doug observed on the night about the standard of films contributed .... thanks for the confidence boost, Doug!

Problem 2:
I love the internet. Download some scrappy freeware. I used Windows Live Movie Maker, FreeAudioEditor and FreeSoundRecorder. Film and record some stuff and stuff around with them for a bit, they're not complicated. Don't have great ambitions of what you're going to achieve with them, because they don't do that much, but that just makes them easier to use when you're a complete bumbly. I also sourced a bunch of free download, copyright free music purely by putting that into Google.

Problem 3: Go film shît. As long as it's short, casual and silly, it'll be watchable. It's somewhat hazardous to take yourself too seriously when you are making a what will turn out to be a Goatfest quality film. Try and film several takes of each thing, you can cut and paste the best of each in the bodgy editing software and it's heaps easier than realising you missed something and trying to recreate the conditions or starting again. Film lots of skits, fillers, scenery, quirky bits to fill in space and set scenes - you can always not use them, but it sucks to have to repeat step 1 then head out again. I learnt this the hard way, completely with timely advice from satan to the same effect after draft 1.

Beer is a great artistic lubricant. Feel free to experiment with other artistic lubricants, just remember, no matter how fascinating staring at the stars on acid is for 5 hours, it won't make a good film. On which note, edit heavily! The sage Simey gave me this advice in no uncertain terms, and painful as it may be to leave out stuff you spent hours working on, that you think is really cute or absolutely hysterical, if no one else you run it by is getting it, it should probably go. Don't let any one scene drag on - even if the odd joke doesn't go down fabulously, or people really aren't very excited watching your v1 send, if you move quickly onto other things, you keep people's attention and give a lively, snappy feeling to the film and hopefully enough of them go off that everyone loves it.

The sound on my particular camera was crap. You might really score and get a seperate sound recording kit, for the rest of us, check if the sound's actually coming through, get your actors to talk really loudly, try and film close up so they are nearer the mike. You can take the sound track off your footage with the sound editing software and mix it with music, adjusting volumes so it's clear. In desperation, i had to get some of my actors back in to talk to my computer and edit it back into the videos. That was tedious. I highly recommend avoiding it.

We had a lot of fun making the film. No one even regretted the small amount of climbing time lost at the end of the day to go and do silly things on boulders, and we were all cracking up about it during and in every review afterwards. I was a bit worried it was only going to be funny to those of us involved in it! Don't get to hung about about it, get some friends and appropriate artistic lubricant and go for short, snappy and silly and you can't go far wrong.


simey
4-May-2011
12:14:01 AM
On 3/05/2011 Wendy wrote:
>The sound on my particular camera was crap. You might really score and
>get a seperate sound recording kit, for the rest of us, check if the sound's
>actually coming through, get your actors to talk really loudly, try and
>film close up so they are nearer the mike. You can take the sound track
>off your footage with the sound editing software and mix it with music,
>adjusting volumes so it's clear. In desperation, i had to get some of
>my actors back in to talk to my computer and edit it back into the videos.
> That was tedious. I highly recommend avoiding it.

Here is some more advice on recording sound... Quality sound is more important than image when it comes to capturing emotion and telling your story. You only have to think how effectively radio entertains without any image, yet television can be boring and difficult to follow when you turn the sound down.

Remember that recording sound without wearing earphones is like filming without looking through the view-finder. You need to make sure that the sound you want is coming through clearly and there is no interference from wind, or cars driving past, or other people talking, or whatever.

If your sound recording is crap, then you might just have to use sub-titles to remedy the problem.
pecheur
8-May-2011
9:06:40 AM
On 4/05/2011 simey wrote:
>On 3/05/2011 Wendy wrote:
>Here is some more advice on recording sound... Quality sound is more important
>than image when it comes to capturing emotion and telling your story. You
>only have to think how effectively radio entertains without any image,
>yet television can be boring and difficult to follow when you turn the
>sound down.
>
>If your sound recording is crap, then you might just have to use sub-titles
>to remedy the problem.
>
To be honest I thought Boulderdash was great, but I agree that the sound needed some work. In the hall there were quite a few parts I couldn't hear clearly and hence the meaning / joke was lost (and there's nothing wrong with my hearing). When I watched it again "in the privacy of my own home" (why does that phrase have certain unsavory connotations these days?) I enjoyed it more because I didn't have to struggle to hear what was being said.

With reference to Merlin's film, I liked it, it was too long, but that was my only complaint, also they subtitled most of the hard to hear bits.

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