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Chockstone Forum - General Discussion
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Firstly!! Half time, so all you people can empty your pockets 'cause I think there at the point of overflowing, especially you Hex 8P.
Conversation a little while ago in the National (Nati Pub) with local fairy Al Mc. His justification for lower offs on climbs was not for errosion control but to bring the piles into line with the rest of the world. Quote" I've climbed at lots of other places in the world and that's the way it is there. By putting in lower offs, it's just bringing Arapiles into line with everywhere else."
Why bring Araps into line with everywhere else?? Maybe bringing into line convenience for the weekend consumer climber. Clip, lower, second, clean, next.
On the point of errosion control, MYTH!! People now use these points so as to top rope and to place runners on rap before leading.
I post this here because it's still a almost puplic forum, I do not wish to subscribe to the safer cliffs forum for this reason, and also that my e-mail address is spam free and I would like it to be kept this way.
On a more somber note, the NBF recently retro-bolted a Moorhead route (which brings into question deceased F.A.?). These actions, and other activites of the NBF have raised the head of the local DOTGOV. The powers at B are now considering a complete ban on any bolting at the Mount, including the replacement of dodgy bolts. Although this would be effective in stopping the NBF in there destruction of a unique climbing experience. It would hinder the replacement of as for mentioned dodgy bolts. Not to mention the flow over effect into other climbing areas in the state.
A few miss guided actions can stuff it for lots!!
This post is typical of the reason for making Safer Cliffs Victoria.
So Stinking Goat you are happy to name one of the NBF guys but un-able to name yourself? What the story?
Firstly, this open forum is read by lots of people - including NP rangers and members of the public. The SCV forum exits so people can discuss details of re-bolting work without all the posts being made public knowledge to anyone who types 'Arapiles' into Google. I really encourage you to use the SCV forum as a single source of information and discussion is much more useful than hundreds of fragmented bitchy posts. Many people agree with your sentiments - the SVC forum is not a sport climbers chat room.
PS - your email adress is not revealed publicly to anyone (or machine) who is not a registered member of SCV.
Some nice points, Stinky , tho some might think your not being fairynuff...
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