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Boganville 5-Jun-2010 At 9:40:20 AM jono_1

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On 2/06/2010 tnd wrote:
>So I'm looking at this crag in the new guide and there's some pretty neat
>route names there...
>
>Cash Register Ethics
>Show Me the Money
>Glue Ain't Cheap
>Cheque or Savings
>etc
>
>...do I discern a theme here? ;-)
>
>And of course the all time classic:
>
>Orders from the Fatherland
>

Classic. I can't believe people are trying to make money out of bolting crags! What a load of crap. Who is going to pay you. Definately not a guidebook author - how much money do you think Simon is going to make from this guidebook. Not much I would guess for the amount of work he has put into it.

You bolt a climb or a whole crag for the love of climbing (or bolting!), for a first ascent, for your ego or you just love spending a whole day hanging on the end of a rope with a big drill or you have no friends or can't find any partners or your body is smashed to pieces from years of abuse or you making up for not touching a drill for the first 20 years of your climbing life.

I have never but a bolt into the rock. Yep I use other peoples bolts all the time and I'm grateful for all the time and money people put into bolting. Maybe I should donate some money/time one day. But if all new route/crag bolting stopped tommorow I couldn't care less and I'm guessing a whole lot of other climbers couldnt care either.

You can't force climbers to pay for a crag to be bolted or an old route to be fixed up. What are you going to do. "Tickets please, $2 a climb". Get real.

If it costs you too much to go bolting, well just go climbing. Climbing should have nothing to do with money.