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Climbing For Christ Australia 11-May-2010 At 12:25:03 PM Hendo
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On 11/05/2010 another dave wrote:

>Got a question for you scientists that has been bugging me (I'm not trying
>to prove anything by it I just won't to know what the answer is)
>The universe came into existance by a series of random events. Everything
>in it is random yet it can all be controlled by maths which is not random.
>How can this paradox exist?

Hey Dave, 'controlled' seems to imply there exists a controller doesn't it? Some people see maths merely as a descriptive tool like words, the fact that it seems so revealing leads others to think it goes deeper. This is moving from science to metaphysics.

Probability is part of quantum mechanics. Some people don't like the idea that the universe should be random, they think that it deterministic and only appears random, hence quantum mechanics is incomplete and there are undiscovered laws that will explain these apparently random phenomena. To test this there have been quantum mechanical experiments (Bell experiments) performed in which the results depend on if a phenomena is truly random, or there is some unknown law behind it. The consensus I was taught was that the results seem to indicate that there are no hidden laws and so everything is fundamentally random. No doubt there is more to be argued however.

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