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OT: Human Rights Framework 3-May-2010 At 10:23:12 PM Hendo

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On 3/05/2010 Wendy wrote:
>Ok, you seem to have several problems here. Problem A: your definition
>of racism.

Ok it is clear we apply these words differently. To me there aren’t sharp boundaries between what you may call racial discrimination and racism. There is a gradual blend between them, different people can choose some boundary between these things but it will be fairly arbitrary and open to discussion.

Imagine you had a whole blend of scenarios and you had to put a sticker on each one, racial discrimination or racism. I’m sure there would be some points at which it would not be immediately clear which one(s) to choose. This is due to definitions failing in the face of complexity and close examination.

>Problem B: Your reading comprehension skills seem a little lacking, so
>I will help out by finding the comments I have made relative to your illfitting
>scenarios.

Yes I saw your comments we seem to agree fairly well here. I was trying to draw some comments from others as well.

On 3/05/2010 Wendy wrote:
>Problem C: a confusion of racism with affirmative action. Another definition
>or 2:

Similar comments to above.

>There's nothing new about people from relatively advantaged groups complaining
>that affirmative action is discrimination against them.

I wasn’t complaining. I thought I was clear that I was not in disagreement of these policies.

On 3/05/2010 Wendy wrote:
>oh yeah, and I am still waiting for an explanation of exactly what it is
>in your culture that is being threatened, something more than general statements
>about displacement.

I can’t give you a complete list of things. Partly because my culture is something I understand intuitively as much as intellectually and partly because it is going to depend on the circumstances.

If you describe to me generally what you want to say about my response then that might help.