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Bolt removed at Denison Crag on Ben Lomond 20-Jan-2010 At 4:23:03 PM hotgemini

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On 20/01/2010 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>Hmm.
>That is not what NPWS did for climbing at Sydney Harbour
>NP. They took the easier for them(?) but draconian option of banning climbing
>instead. The equivalent also happened recently in Qld with the climbs in
>the cave...

M9. In the last two weeks I've spent about 4 hours on the phone with the rangers and DERM/EPA administrators who were directly involved with the Mt. Flinders Cave and they will openly state that the biggest single issue which inflamed the situation was the lack of an effective communication channel between themselves and climbers. This resulted in the rangers effectively prosecuting the climbers involved in absentia and it escalated into a far bigger issue than it could have and/or should have been if there'd been some mechanism to facilitate earlier discussions.

As for SHNP, thats an excellent example of how much National Parks bodies have moved forward in the last decade, rather than actively obstruction, now they are actively seeking input.

Building recognitition of the legitimacy of our chosen recreation is paramount so that we can work collaboratively rather than combatively with land managers.

-Adam.