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Redback spider under men's basin at Pines 13-Jan-2010 At 1:06:11 PM Richard

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Jim, looks like a black house spider to me also. We get a fair few of those funnel shaped webs - thats what they make.

I kill all spiders (excpet huntsmen because they eat spiders), because non venemous spiders attract venomous spider-eating spiders, such as white tails. We get 3 to 4 of these a year in our place. White tails like to hang around on the architraves, in the corner of the ceiling. They will circle the whole room, looking from spiders nesting at the top of the wall. They have this trick, when they realise you have spotted them, they will fall to the ground, to escape. One minute they are on the roof, the next minute there gone - unless you know to look on the floor directly below where they were. White tails also like to hide in clothing left on the floor. Don't.

I am somewhat amused at the original posting in this topic - I am sure there's redbacks often in the toilets. I've seen one in the disabled toilet. (not sure if it was entitled to be there, but since I killed it, I guess it was post-humously disabled.) If araps was in Africa and you were reporting a bull elephant, OK.