Black Diamond "STOPPER" Set. (Sizes 4 to 13) - 10 pieces.
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Chockstone Forum - General Discussion
General Climbing Discussion
|The greatest sandbags in Victoria
||Wednesday, 7 October 2009 At 4:45:16 PM
|On 7/10/2009 porkpie wrote:
>I think NM is right. The ewbank system is meant to be the hardest move.
> But i believe that is how hard a move feels on the ascent (onsight, redpoint,
>etc) not the dog. So a route like Rubber Lover is 25 but the hardest move
>on the dog is only about 20 (from memory).
>Other grading systems (ie English) offer more info on the sustained nature
>and potential danger but are confusing. So my idea is we give a route
>numerical grading say from 1 to 38 or so, let the grade get confirmed or
>changed by numerous ascents and then offer any significant info in the
>route description (such as no gear, sustained, one move wonder etc). Now
>there's an idea........
... or a troll?
~> Way off the mark re the 'hardest move' component...
I suggest you read this post to save BA and me from burying this myth with other similar posts!
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