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Tiger Wall - Dribble Bolting? 12-Aug-2009 At 1:07:45 PM robertsonja

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On 12/08/2009 ..::- Chris -::.. wrote:
>This thread is ridiculous.... If you don't like them don't clip them...

thats the most ridiculous statement in this thread "If you don't like them don't clip them"
-regardless of whether one clips the bolts or not, they still exist
-so if I grid bolt Muldoon, thats OK, you don't have to clip them
-if I graffiti on the rock, thats OK, you don't have to read it.

>I'm more than happy to take the word of an Arapiles guide book author and
>someone who's climbed the place from tip to toe for many many years, if
>he says they were needed they were needed....

you may be happy to take someones word, re-read the thread, you can build half a dozen seperate anchors on this ledge - hence no need for bolts.

>A few more deaths at Arapiles and then i guess we won't have climbing
>or we'll need permits or worse we loose the right... I'm not in favour
>of Grid bolting and I'm positive Simey isn't either.....however i am in
>favour of our sport being as safe as possible so people have a choice as
>to whether climb a route as a death route or enjoy the route in a safer
>style...

Unfortauntely there will be more deaths at Arapiles, but that is life and that is climbing.
define "safe as possible"? that is a ridiculous statement
people make their own decisions to climb and know the risks - I didn't clip the bolts and it wasn't unsafe.