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OT: Moorabal/Lal Lal wind farm 16-Jun-2009 At 4:06:43 PM R James

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>And no, I don't prefer to get my science from newspapers. I prefer to
>get mine from the IPCC, who seem to be climate scientists mostly.

You seem to rely very strongly on the IPCC. I expect you know that the IPCC doesn't actually carry out any research itself. It collects selected research, writes its own summaries, and it's politicians come up with the final say. You would also know that many scientists previously involved with the IPCC, now distance themselves from it because they disagree with the conclusions reached, and its refusal to acknowledge research that doesn't fit its agenda. Most people are now aware that, while they claim figures like 2,000 scientists have reviewed their reports, in reality, "reviewed" doesn't mean "agreed with". In fact, many have disagreed, but are still listed as "reviewed". Others have only reviewed very small parts of it, before the summary was written. In the end, it's a politically driven organisation that seems to select data to fit its pre-decided conclusions. It certainly doesn't live up o its claim "IPCC reports should be neutral with respect to policy, although they need to deal objectively with policy relevant scientific, technical and socio economic factors. They should be of high scientific and technical standards, and aim to reflect a range of views, expertise and wide geographical coverage."

Its inclusion of the Mann Hockey stick data in an earlier report shows that it is not a reliable source. (This was all peer reviewed etc and scientifically wrong).

If you want to believe in anthropogenic warming, I encourage you to look beyond the IPCC as backup. In fact, go to it's sources, as well as the ones it ignores, and form your own conclusions.