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OT: Moorabal/Lal Lal wind farm 28-May-2009 At 1:07:14 PM Richard

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On 28/05/2009 evanbb wrote:
>On 28/05/2009 TonyB wrote:

>>The earth has a stable climate system (the climate has existed for 4B
>>years), despite the above. It does not an unstable one as assumed by
>IPCC models (assumptions of positive feedbacks).
>
>The Earth has a stable climate? What does that statement mean? I need
>you to define 'stable' in this context, and climate for that matter. You
>stated earlier that it was warmer in the Medieval Warm Period, but it was
>somehow the same climate? How does that work? Are you saying the climate
>has been exactly the same for 4 billion years? Even when there was no oxygen
>in the atmosphere, the climate was the same as it is now? That seems a
>little far fetched, even to me, who 'believes' in this Kooky GWH.

The original post implies the definitin of "stable" climate is mearly the existance of a "climate" (i.e in any form). (Where as the definiation of stable should imply not changing within nominated bounds.)

My view on climate change is mearly this: we'll be a lot better of if we assume we are changing the climate, and reduce our impact, than vice-a-verse. I don't like pollution, smog, wasting anything (such as power) irregradless of weather its changing the climate or not. Being able to redude your impact on the planet I see as a sign of an intelligent life form - I'd like to think that's us. I am prepared to pay for this, to the ability that I can. One of my pet hates is the construction of 'modern" houses that have less environmental features than old houses - i.e no roof eves. So you save a few $ in construction, but get no shade on the walls in summer .. not very smart, IMHO.