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OT: Moorabal/Lal Lal wind farm 19-May-2009 At 5:33:14 PM GravityHound
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OK, I'll bite!

On 19/05/2009 TonyB wrote:
>> Arctic sea ice extent hit an 8 year high last week http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/
>eaice_extent.htm
>
but lets ignore the graph from the same website you have used to show that antarctic sea ice has been growing (http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png) that shows a long term reduction in arctic sea ice Tony B? if you want some credibilty in your arguments you might want to be a bit less selective in the data you use to support them.

> Antarctic sea ice has been growing at 4.7% per decade for the past 30
>years http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/s_plot_hires.png
>

so the page below talks about graphs with temperatures that dont continue to rise. a simple click on their homepage (http://hadobs.metoffice.com/) has a map showing surface temperature anomalies for the entire planet. plenty of areas have cooled but plenty of other have warmed.

>Global atmospheric temperatures have been falling for 11 years. >http://www.lenzie.org.uk/scam.php

perhaps you shouldnt try to debunk global warming but try debunking climate change. and try starting in your own backyard. the BOM has loads of anomaly data for our mostly brown land and they also make plenty of predictions. funnily enough rainfall will increase in some parts of Australia but will decrease in others. Same for temperature. the clincher for me is farmers. probably the most conservative demographic after fred niles political party members. they're convinced something is going on and i reckon they are a pretty good litmus test.

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