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How smart / green are we all 8-Dec-2008 At 2:47:28 PM lacto

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>I'm all for costing carbon emissions and ensuring market prices for things
>like WATER. We don't have a water shortage in the cities, we just have
>a problem of too cheap water!

I think there is a water shortage in cities and the solutions for stopping these shortages are where the problems lie . Every alternative has costs- be they to the individual, the environment or other communities and few people will accept that they arent entitled for water to come some other source anti desal people want dams on the mitchel or pipes from tassie , rainwater harvesting (tanks cost approx $200000 per Ml stored ) storm water needs to be pumped to storage before re use all at huge cost . Sewage treatment even for agricultural use is a problem as salt loads appear very high . There is huge emotional talk about solving some problems eg the lakes at the murray mouth needed 400000 Ml to avoid absolute catastrophy yet now supposedly they are safe for another year yet little extra water become available for them and certainly nowhere near 400000 Ml . We are told that we can buy water from willing sellers and I heard quoted on the radio this morning $1000 per Ml when victorian water right which actually has an allocation is trading for $2500 a Ml where as NSW murray water has no allocation . I believe the value of my water is closer to $6000 per ML for our situation and to the community . The cost of "savings " is about $5000 per Ml . I know many people who have sold their water and I dont believe too many of them were willing but were a position of forced to. A near neighbor recently sold his water then ended up selling his $600,000 dairy with feed pad and bunkers ,140 acres and 100 Ml of water for $500,000 Also the 2 jobs on the farm as well as 1 on the milk factory ceased to be .these people and their families joined the 1600 per week moving to Melbourne creating all the demand on water, roads transport etc . there is no easy solution as nearly everything in our economy is inter related