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Welfare and climbing 28-Nov-2008 At 1:32:32 AM anthonyk

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On 27/11/2008 bomber pro wrote:
>Quakers in the USA forge their own axes, plow shares, and hammers, as well
>as nails, using recycled
>steel scrap, traded for with home grown produce, they have no electricity
>or phones, and the horses they
>drive to town also pull the plows that grow the food that feed them. sweeping
>statements made by you
>are just a tad uneducated. have an opinion by all means, just try not
>to exaggerate to justify them OK.

well the Amish, and I suspect Quakers too if they're like them, have chosen to stick generally with a mid-17th century lifestyle, but they do use electricity and gas. but maybe half points for those groups, they're a rare example of a large enough community with the commitment to live pre (or semi) industrialised, even if they do still depend on a fairly extensive trade network.

anyway thats not the point, if people want to be as self supporting as possible good on them, but its virtually impossible to separate yourself from the bigger industrial complex so ppl should appreciate their dependence on the whole picture