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THE AUSTRALIAN RE, RETRO-BOLTING OPEN FORUM 5-Feb-2004 At 10:21:17 PM hex-TROLL

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A5--- being so democratic will only cause you grief,dude.Better for you to blend with the masses. Good luck ,bro.
Retro-Bolting Munkpuz : Clearly , replacing the tat with a bolt IS retro-bolting. HB's contribrution to Australian rock climbing defies description.HOWEVER : if the tat is down-right dangerous, then replace it with a bolt. The route is clearly a 'sport-climb', so one new bolt won't matter a toss IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. The '(very) do-gooder' who does the retro-bolting can then take both ownership of and responsibility for, the route. This is a case of GOOD retro-bolting, vsv, lots of potenial injuries out of character with such a sport-climb.
It's only when 1 becomes 2,3,4,5,etc new bolts added to a previously well protected mixed route (such as Seize The Day ) , that the broader climbing culture degenerates into 'the sport-climbing template'
Jerry moffat , caused quite a stir at a British Mountaineering Council 'forum' when he said : " If a climb has 7 bolts and 1 nut, then I would be in favour of placing the 8th bolt"
Taking the Puzzle out of the Monkey.
Luv, HEX-(S)TROLL