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Removing the "glue" hold on Punks in the Gym 1-Oct-2008 At 4:38:52 AM Wattie

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We were discussing the colourful history of Punks and how the glue hold came into being. With the strict rules of the area should we as a climbing community, proud of its claim to have the first 32 in the world remove the glue and bring it back to the way it was when the first ascent was done in 1985 by Güllich. It is a mystery and very difficult to believe that the claim of "the hold crumbled away" was excepted. Why was a new, completely different hold created to replace a somewhat pretty solid piece of fine sandstone? I would say that those whom have done the climb since the addition of the glue can not claim a true ascent. When it was done with the UIAA grade of 10+ was given (32) now it is consider only 31. Should we remove the glue and let those who are strong enough truly climb punks in the Gym?