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Burnley - In need of some work 22-Feb-2008 At 7:35:53 PM Organ Pipe
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Everyone, regardless of whether you're 'pro' or 'anti' reset, must realise that it's only a matter of time before it must be done.
Whether this is now, or a year from now, or 5 years from now, etc, a reset WILL have to occur, and new holds will have to be purchased!
The community dialogue around how, who, with what resources, with what cash, with who's permission and consent is valid and necessary if the facility is to be more than just a blip on history's pages.

Agreed?

Right.

I was there last night (tall guy in light blue singlet) for those that were there also. I showed up during the crux of the VCC part.
The meeting at this point seemed to be frustrating people to no end. As the night wore on and the group size shrunk, the discussion became more positive.

What I took away from the discussion was this:
Michelangelo has a noble respect for Jacqui's opinion, which is that "as there is no money, we should carry out minimal impact* maintenance and not conduct a reset"

*rotating polished holds and replacing polished holds that have been rotated in the past.

There were about 6 guys left at the end that Michelangelo has agreed to continue chatting with.

We challenged the "as there is no money bit" as in Michelangelo's mind, this is the real roadblock. He gave us the impression that If we can raise enough cash to invest in a significant quantity of new holds, then we've got a really good base to make this happen.

The other key point that I think filtered out of the discussion is that we desperately need a project manager to volunteer. Someone who can work closely with Michelangelo, probably someone who can talk with the VCC also.
I'd personally love to do this, as this is what I do for a living, however I'm moving to the U.S. in March for the next 2 years. Although I'd be happy to facilitate fund raising or something similar remotely.

Lastly I made this observation: During the discussion people split hairs over whether all walls should be done at once vs one at a time, and washing holds on site vs taking them off site to clean, and how would we raise money, and who was going to route set etc.
These are all questions that are important yes, but come down the track when a plan is being formalised. You don't renovate a house beginning with selecting the door handles! you begin with the builder, and the council approval, then work down the details in descending order.

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