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Toxic Climbing Water Bottles 15-Oct-2007 At 12:51:45 PM The Keeper
Cruze - you missed the point - no one said do not drink out of ALL plastic bottles - #2 & #4 are okay and #1 okay for single use. The point is that #7s are toxic. Nalgene makes some bottles that are okay but their #7s are a big problem,.

Your world is not as complex and unmanageable as you depict:

UV - use sun block - it is available even in Aussie.

High level of fat intake - modify your diet and eat more chook or fish than le boeuf - lots of fat free products these days so it is simply a matter of focus and choice.

High sugar intake - reduce or substitute - I recommend more VB and less Coke.

Erratic drivers (drunk or otherwise) - this is definitely the tough one in your list - the others you control - this one you most definitely don't. You're in tough mate and I feel for you - just avoid being on the road after a Cats footie game, or after the TV telecast of any Wallabies game - a bit dicey these days in Kiwiland too - as things didn't go according to plan in France after all the hype but keep the faith in Tri-nations - the Springboks are carrying the load for the southern mob. Given that I once made a near fatal error in coming between an erratically driving Aussie matilda transfixed on her nearby hair salon - as I innocently tried to get from one side of a street to the other in Bathurst, NSW - I would recommend caution in the vicinity of those institutions whereever they are in Aussie. They are a particularly dangerous phenomena on Saturday morning or as the date of the next April Lavigne concert approaches.

It is said that trad climbing is a good multi-task problem solving training ground for life as a whole - as distinct from the simpler lifestyle of sport or gym climbing. It assists in assessing multiple issues , prioritizing on the important ones and dealing with them in a systematic way.

AnthonyK - I give loads of credit to toxicologists - a bit difficult to derive your inference from what has been presented. I do give less credit to corporate executives who are less likely to be really concerned about my personal well-being versus their corporate bank accounts or latest golf score. There are over 150 independent scientific studies on the health problems with No.7 plastics - you can start with the summary documents or references previously provided and then progress through their bibliographies. You can probably find them either on-line or go out to the La Trobe Uni library.

""Some researchers with close-up view of bisphenol A are so schocked by its ability to skew development in their laboratory animals, even at among the lowest doses ever used in experiments, they are waiting for the government to ban it. In their personal lives, they can't run away from products containing it fast enough. "I would love to see it banished off the face of the Earth." Dr. Patricia Hunt, a Washington State University geneticist, said.

She began ditching her bisphenol-A -containing products after discovering that mere traces of the chemical were able to scramble the eggs of her lab mice. In humans, similar damage would lead to miscarriages, and birth defects such as Down Syndrome.""

Zebedee - It may be that the most dangerous threat to your health is John Howard seeking another term in office - this is 4-5 times the recommended (Labour) safe level !

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