Orestes has harder moves down low but is shorter. There's definitely no moves on Sandanista as hard as the two moves off the ground on Orestes.
The jug around the lip on Sandanista IS a "secret" hold, i.e. you have no idea how big it is until you get a hold of it or unless you've seen it on the guidebook.
I must admit, technically speaking my "on-sight" ascent was dodgy (more of a flash, really) because I'd seen the guide cover, but like you I'm not too hung up on it and I tell everyone I onsighted it.
Oh no, my horrible secret is out !! |