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CRUX Magazine Issue #2 17-Jan-2007 At 3:52:13 PM cruxmag

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> neil
>talks about himself in the
>third person at one stage, as if someone else other than himself is doing
>the talking.

yep - point taken. Although as an 'editor' of a magzine this is pretty standard practice.

>Oh and the subject matter is a "new"(read not new at all) cliff that he
>has bolted to within an inch of
>gridlock 23+ routes,by the way theres nothing"taipanesque" about this
>place, but now acording to neil,
>"soon enough the hoards followed",nice coincidence to have this place
>pop up in neils crag profile.

Muki, have you been to this crag and climbed any of these routes?? The crag really does have some of the most amazing rock in the Grampians. There have been 15 or so people up there with me over the last few months - everyone has had a great time and are blown away by the rock quality of the third tier. I say shut up and only comment unless you have actually CLIMBED the routes. I don't care if you have been to the area 10 years ago when there was no routes on this section of cliff (yes, it IS a totally new area). If you enjoyed some of the routes at The Tower then you will certainly enjoy the Ruined castle. Anyway - i really can't bee bothered gettigfn into an argument over the subjective merits of an area. An the editor of the magazine I have the right to put what i think fits. There was no other submissions for new Victorian crags so I wrote that piece. You will have noticed that the previous issue had a similarly over the top hype job about a crag that I was not heavily involved in (The Far Pavillion).