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Safer Cliffs Victoria...Members Only? 31-Dec-2005 At 10:33:45 AM tmarsh

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And to add what Kieren said... there is a delicate relationship between Parks Victoria - effectively the land manager for 90% of the good climbing in the state - and those that place and/or replace bolts. Parks' attitude could be summarised as:

1. We know that there are bolts in cliffs
2. We understand that climbers use them
3. We understand that good bolts are better than bad bolts, particularly if they lessen the likelihood of someone being killed, or worse still, being left alive enough to commence legal proceedings
4. We also believe that non-climbers don't either understand or like bolts (assuming they notice them at all)
5. We have a hard time explaining to fat tourists just what that boy was doing hanging from a string with a petrol drill

Add all of those up and you can see why discussing bolting plans or announcing where bolts have been replaced could cause difficulty. If you have someone complaining about bolting activity in a park, and PV can simply look up Chockstone and say 'hey Tim said he replaced some bolts at the gallery this weekend - that must have been him they were complaining about'... A little discretion is better.

tim