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Vic v NSW

Ronny

25-Oct-2005
1:22:51 PM

I know there was a similar thread a while back about Adelaide and Melb, but I can't find anything on this:

I have to leave lil ol 'delaide at the end of next year, and have to start applying for Jobs now (or soonish). I figure i'll go to either Sydney or Melbourne, and jobs wise I can't see any real difference.
So the decision will have to be made on the basis of which city is going to be best to live in and climb.

At the moment i'm figuring Sydney is prob better because there's more climbing within a day trip (and regular full weekend trips will prob tend to interfere with work a bit too much).

So whaddyarekon - climbing wise - Sydney or Melbourne?

(This isn't just idle chat - your comments go to a good cause - my climbing future!)

Ronny


nmonteith

25-Oct-2005
1:26:01 PM

If you choose to live in NSW - then throw away your trad rack and get used to sport climbing. It seems
trad climbing is dead up that way. Expect to climb bolted handcracks. You will get uber strong though -
and this strength will be put to good use when you come and visit us Victorians over Xmas/Easter. You
will then flash all our testpieces and call them soft, unsustained etc.


rodw

25-Oct-2005
1:28:09 PM

If it day trips and climbing you main decider i think you would have to pick sydney, heaps of crags and bouldering spots in and around the city and if the weather turns foul plenty of gyms too. Downside its more expensive to live here.


rodw

25-Oct-2005
1:30:02 PM

Plenty of trad around especially the blueys...but even most suburban crags have a trad line or two if thats your thing.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

25-Oct-2005
1:31:54 PM

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=15600&Replies=51

This is one of at least a few threads of interest to you (they morph so can't always go by the heading ...), that the search function turned up.

25-Oct-2005
1:33:10 PM

NSW...


IdratherbeclimbingM9

25-Oct-2005
1:41:06 PM

I'll nibble nm's troll-burly* ...
>You will then flash all our testpieces and call them soft, unsustained etc.
... unless you hang around placing trad gear!

(*Dem's fightin words to the northern mavericks!)

jiminy cricket

25-Oct-2005
1:52:41 PM

depends on your constraints. if you don't see yourself spending the substantial time required to get to the gramps/araps/buffalo and back on a regular basis, then definitely sydney. particularly if you also like bouldering (melbourne itself = bluestone walls + gyms). nearest real rock climbing to melbourne (of any kind) is 45 min or so away.

if you're prepared to do a lot of travelling, then melbourne would be at least as good.

since you're from adelaide, i guess your access to arapiles and the grampians was not too different to what it is from melbourne. if you visited them both a fair bit, then why not go to sydney for a change of scenery?

otherwise, both are great cities to live in, provided you live in a suburb suited to your lifestyle.

Nottobetaken

25-Oct-2005
2:32:21 PM

Ronny -
Much as I'd like to see you in the Gramps every now and again, it's probably best that you do the Sydney thing and experience what for you will be paradise - multiple crimp ladders, single to multi-pitch climbing, 1hr.20mins driving time to the Blues, 5 minutes driving time to some decent bouldering, remoteness if you want it (Grose Valley), traffic if you don't (Shipley) and plenty of brilliant bouldering areas within 5- 30 minutes drive from your chosen place of abode (so long as it's on the North Shore!) Of course you'll have to get used to the humidity, and courtesy of the world's changing climate - rain, rain and more rain (or has it always been like this?) Boredom won't be a factor for at least 4 years - (well - that's how long it took me) - so you should be OK until at least 2010! Yes - by the time you do suffer from the disease known as 'Oh My God - Not Another Crimp!' - you will be in the words of Neil - 'uber strong' - and promptly flash all of the Victorian testpieces upon a southern visitation - and call them soft. Unfortunately however you will also not be able to climb slabs, you will think a wire is something only cops use, and running it out more than 2m (bolts) 1m (trad) may produce more heart pulpitations than opening the centrefold of a Ralph magazine. You could also of course be lured into the world of 'big business' - and never see the light of day again (or is that what your clients are going to experience?)

Sydney's got a lot to offer indeed, as has Melbourne, but at the end of the day I guess it comes down to one thing: Where do you want to spend your rest days? Holding binoculars and bird watching on Whale Beach in the sun, or holding an umbrella and whale watching on St Kilda Beach? Your choice...


BundyBear

25-Oct-2005
3:49:28 PM

Sydney. Sutherland Shire !

2 hours to the Blueys
1.5 hours to Nowra

Countless local Micro Crags.


anthonyk

25-Oct-2005
3:57:48 PM

On 25/10/2005 BundyBear wrote:
>Sydney. Sutherland Shire !
>2 hours to the Blueys
>1.5 hours to Nowra
>Countless local Micro Crags.

yeah and when you go out you either pick up or get in a fight, isn't that how it goes in the shire? never a boring night.


Eduardo Slabofvic

25-Oct-2005
6:49:08 PM

Your choice will depend on your sexual orientation, for if you are gay then you should go to Sydney, as everyone in Sydney is gay. If you’re straight, then move to Melbourne, where you can sit around watching a bunch of boys in very short shorts hug each other. Yup, were all straight down here.


kerroxapithecus

25-Oct-2005
8:14:09 PM

Sounds like a good reason to go to Sydney Eduardo (if he's straight that is).

Rosie

25-Oct-2005
8:20:11 PM

The other thing to think about is the weather. I find that the winter weather in Melbourne keeps me indoors between June and August, except for 2 or 3 fine weekends. Sydney winter weather is a fair bit milder, so you can get out a bit more. Spring, Summer and Autumn are equally good in both states.

(I am originally from QLD though, so my idea of crappy weather mightn't correlate well with other Melbournites).


HM33

25-Oct-2005
9:59:38 PM

you could climb on any day of the year in sydney. there is always somewhere dry/warm enough


nmonteith

25-Oct-2005
10:40:42 PM

I climb every day of the year in Victoria!


Hatman

26-Oct-2005
6:14:39 AM

On 25/10/2005 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>Your choice will depend on your sexual orientation, for if you are gay
>then you should go to Sydney, as everyone in Sydney is gay. If you’re
>straight, then move to Melbourne, where you can sit around watching a bunch
>of boys in very short shorts hug each other. Yup, were all straight down
>here.

Hey then go to sydney if you are a man or lesbian as by that comment there will be plenty of gals just begging for you! Forget the climbing! Just climb into bed!

mikl law

26-Oct-2005
6:37:58 AM

Main reason against melbourne is that, because of the much longer distances (3 to 4 hours), going climbing eats friday, saturday and sunday nights, so you won't have much of a social life. Most of the Sydney climbing is daytrippable.

Vic has a smaller number of awesome 5 star climbs, and a smaller number of crags with more than 5 good routes on them, Sydney has thousands of 41/2 star classics, and lots of crags with many good routes. There is not a lot of trad above 20.

Because the Blue mtns is so good, one ignores crags that would be major areas in Victoria, Point Perp is 21/2 hours (i think, never been there), Bungonia Gorge is 2 hours, Booroomba is 3, Bungles and kaputar and New England would all be major crags down south. I don't think it's rained this year up here?
Mikl


Eduardo Slabofvic

26-Oct-2005
10:47:51 AM

On 26/10/2005 Hatman wrote:
>Hey then go to sydney if you are a man or lesbian as by that comment there
>will be plenty of gals just begging for you! Forget the climbing! Just
>climb into bed!

The women in Sydney are gay as well.


Phil Box

26-Oct-2005
10:52:40 AM

Why is Queensland not considered in this equation.

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