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Testpieces at the grade 17-Jun-2003 At 5:16:46 PM (removed)

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Okay, another one:

Would it be possible to come up with a list of testpieces at each grade within Victoria ? The routes would have to be:
concensus at the grade,

have had a lot of ascents - not much point having a testpiece that only a handful have done -

not too specific to one style climbing (ruling out, say, Passport to Insanity although this fails under the concensus rule) particularly favouring some over others (this may be tricky to find)

a good route

not overly run-out or dangerous (so that it didn't preclude sporty types from the equation)
I'm tipping most of these routes would come from Arapiles given that the history and volume of people climbing there would ensure that the volume of ascents requirement is met, although some top end routes surely could be found in the Grampians too.

My initial suggestions are:
12 Bard
13 Muldoon
14 Lamplighter
15 D Minor
16 Brolga
17 Surface To Air
18 Eurydice
19 Tannin
20
21 Kachoong
22
23 Birdman of Alcatraz
24 Dreadnought
25 Have A Good Flight
26 Fortress
27 Chasin' The Shadow
28 Monkey Puzzle
29 Serpentine
30 ??
31 The Lord Of The Rings
32 ??
33 That hard thing at Muline ???

Anyone care to argue ???

(Separate question. Has anyone given a grade to Nathan Hoette's Spartacus yet ?)