General Climbing Discussion

Topic	Date	User
Grading Systems	16-Jun-2003 At 10:34:27 AM	Mick
Message
Thanks for the insight, however if the E grade is for seriousness shouldn,t Dazed and Confused merit a higher E grade than Quo Vadis. Haven,t climbed it in 18months but I remember quite clearly that there wasn,t really much in the way of great gear anywhere on the route. Most of the gear sits behind/in hollow or fragile sounding rock. The start seems to be only protectable by a tiny cam. (I believe there probably was some kind of nut placement 1.5-2 metres off the block but when I set placement with a short tug on the draw a hairline crack appeared in the side of the flake. I also think it was at least a Ewbank grade harder than Quo Vadis. Any thoughts? Mike

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