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Let´s Harden UP!!!!!!!!!!! 2-Oct-2004 At 1:46:24 PM Rock Weasel

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So what is the hardest that you have onsight trad climbed Chris? Or have you at all, considering you describe the trad experience as being 'contrived' (usually a term employed to denigrate a skill one is not good at in climbing). Considering that you did not (and hence can never) climb Serpentine like HB did, your input to the grading of that climb is more or less worthless.

For some people (particularly from NSW) it seems that climbing is about bulging muscles, hard redpoints and big, impressive numbers. I know that this way of doing things means something and that it may even be popular. But I think that its popularity is diminishing...I think that climbers are realizing that they can either dog their way up a bolt ladder for the glorious tick, or they can do some adventure (what trad really is) climbing. The rewards are greater because there are more skills and greater risks.

So next time you commiserate the death of hard climbing, do so to your buddies rather than to a forum like this where your style of climbing may not be considered hard at all.