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Climbing Mediawatch 10-Jan-2022 At 1:31:31 PM gordoste

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On 6-Jan-2022 dalai wrote:
>On 6-Jan-2022 gordoste wrote:
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>>Well said. I can't agree with dalai that this is "ominous" when climbers
>are so clearly in the wrong here.
>>
>
>Not questioning whether the climbers did or didn't do the right thing
>here. The reality is TO's will have visited every crag in Australia. If
>the go to decision is to just ban climbing then that will happen. Enjoy
>your indoor climbing!

Sorry but I can't see how a ban on climbing here means climbing will be banned everywhere. This is the equivalent of people saying that if climbers get access anywhere, we'll destroy all the art because we don't give a toss.

We have to be willing to talk to TOs, ask which ones need to be off limits and then respect that. The "it's my right to climb anything on public land" attitude totally ignores TOs land rights that were established nearly 50 years ago. It's about time we caught up.

Note: This does not mean we should not fight arbitrary or over-extensive bans. But if we have the support of TOs (or at least are not in conflict with them), that fight will be easy.