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Fixed gear guidelines in the Grampians 12-May-2018 At 7:55:23 AM kieranl

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On 12-May-2018 FatBoy wrote:

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>But I think chopping anything placed in this time is part of the suggestion.
>A clearly defined local ethic on thecrag.com would go a long way towards
>helping it.
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>And explicit agreement from the VCC in terms of policy would also be required.
>Put those two pieces together and at least you have a fair stance to do
>the aforementioned chopping.

Actually chopping stuff placed during the moratorium period is explicitly off the table in my proposal. Threats of retribution create confrontation, get hackles up, destroy dialogue. To get anywhere with this requires goodwill. Maybe shockingly idealistic but I don't think it has any chance of working otherwise.

This discussion also has to go way beyond this forum. I'll maybe put a tiny bit more flesh on tese bones and submit to Argus and Vertical Life to get to a broader audience. Also I have no illusions that I can drive this process. I'm happy to be heavily involved but I'm not a great networker.