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Teaching new climbers - why you stopped?

Reluctant

15-Jul-2015
9:54:11 AM

Was reading a thread about club issues with teaching new climbers. Got me thinking. As I've got older and climbing level declined I enjoyed teaching others to climb trad. Then teach my own daughter with knowledge gained from instructing others.

Now I only teach my daughter. Why? Assholes. Several of the people I have given my time to have acted like assholes. Best example was a long day of belaying them on their first lead. And I mean long. Putting gear in pack and asked them to gather and bag rope. Fell silent. Looked up and they were gone. Asshole.

So my question to those who have bothered to teach others - what was it that made you stop?


IdratherbeclimbingM9

15-Jul-2015
9:58:38 AM

On 15/07/2015 Reluctant wrote:
>Best example was a long day of belaying them on their first lead. And I mean long. Putting gear in pack and asked them to gather and bag rope. Fell silent. Looked up and they were gone. Asshole.

They didn't like the way you belayed?
;-)

I haven't stopped teaching new climbers, though admit to being selective in who I teach...
It helps fulfill my mental selection criteria if I detect that the prospective newbie has passion for the enterprise.

Paul

15-Jul-2015
11:40:26 AM

On 15/07/2015 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 15/07/2015 Reluctant wrote:
>>Best example was a long day of belaying them on their first lead. And
>I mean long. Putting gear in pack and asked them to gather and bag rope.
>Fell silent. Looked up and they were gone. Asshole.
>
>They didn't like the way you belayed?
>;-)
>
>
>I haven't stopped teaching new climbers, though admit to being selective
>in who I teach...
>It helps fulfill my mental selection criteria if I detect that the prospective
>newbie has passion for the enterprise.

Im the same, still teach people but Im selective as well, only teach people who I would want belaying me these days. I don't have as much spare time as when I was younger and at uni which is probably the common theme as to why people teach less newbies.

Although I don't spend time teaching uni clubs anymore, if any uni clubs need a hand getting on top of their risk assessment documentation given some of the recent issues which have occurred with various clubs, just ask and I'll happily help out.


Eduardo Slabofvic

15-Jul-2015
11:48:30 AM

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, teach.

Reluctant

15-Jul-2015
11:57:44 AM

On 15/07/2015 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>Those who can, do.
>
>Those who can't, teach.

I agree. I climb like crap now. Crap climbing still better than couch sitting any day.


ado_m

15-Jul-2015
12:06:56 PM

(A) the responsibility of keeping them safe and teaching (B) the risk you can put yourself under, especially if you are eg doing multipitch. I find it's more fun going out and just having a nice day climbing with competent partners...

Jayford4321

15-Jul-2015
1:11:38 PM

On 15/07/2015 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>Those who can, do.
>
>Those who can't, teach.

And those who want, try.
And those who don't want, try not to.
And other wierdos just read about it.


Eduardo Slabofvic

15-Jul-2015
2:54:48 PM

And those who write, write log books.

That it lasts longer


Macciza

15-Jul-2015
2:56:43 PM

Haven't stopped teaching, but the kids seem to be learning less . . .
Or think they don't want to know the stuff I'd prefer to teach . . .
Or they think what I am suggesting is 'unsafe' . . .
Kids these days . . .
'isn't there an app for all this . . .'

One Day Hero

15-Jul-2015
3:38:38 PM

On 15/07/2015 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>Those who can, do.
>Those who can't, teach.

I've never found this over used cliche to be even vaguely accurate.

Jayford4321

15-Jul-2015
4:43:17 PM

On 15/07/2015 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>And those who write, write log books.
>
>That it lasts longer

True.
There is hope for you yet, as I hear your name features in simey's black book.

rightarmbad

15-Jul-2015
6:54:08 PM

>I've never found this over used cliche to be even vaguely accurate.

You've obviously never been to tafe and experienced some of the guys that teach trades then. . . .


JamesMc

15-Jul-2015
7:06:42 PM

Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach
Those who can't teach write guide books.


Groveller

16-Jul-2015
11:11:05 AM

I'm not good enough to teach others but am happy to take friends and family as extras. However had a nephew who came on an easy trip to Halls Gap but refused to wear a helmet cause it would mess up his hair/ and he thought it wasn't cool......I told him to piss off and get an ice cream. Maybe being 15 is an excuse but I won't take him again.


MisterGribble

16-Jul-2015
12:17:21 PM

Children, animal's Gen Y's
Don't bother......

16-Jul-2015
4:59:32 PM

On 15/07/2015 JamesMc wrote:
>Those who can, do.
>Those who can't, teach
>Those who can't teach write guide books.

What about people who no longer write guidebooks?

martym

16-Jul-2015
5:10:03 PM

Two small children.

I try to contribute a few "advanced" skills trips to my club every once in a whole, but It's a lot of work.

My mate reached a milestone the other day "my daughter belayed me for the first time". I hope to experience that one day.

timbigot

16-Jul-2015
5:14:24 PM

Climbing with your kids is great, taking my first lead fall with my son belaying was a bit of a water shed moment (he was fine, although i don't know if he would have passed the frame by frame video investigation currently in vogue on chocky)


phillipivan

16-Jul-2015
5:34:08 PM

I'm trying to teach my, and Tim's, dog to belay. It's slow going. Also they are too light to catch a good slump.

bentobox

17-Jul-2015
11:46:35 AM

I've only "taught" two people.

One was a sport climbing mate learning trad, the other was a 7-year old with no sense of danger.

Both were running laps around me by the end of day 1.

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