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Why rope access kooks have no place in climbing 7-May-2015 At 9:15:13 AM climberman
On 6/05/2015 Macciza wrote:
>On 6/05/2015 climberman wrote:
>>Yopu're the only one whos's directly mentioned names and 'tit for tat'
>>approaches in this thread, AFAIK.
>>snacks removed his name yesterday from his info.
>I think it was something like
>>Anyway, bleghh. Commercial shit and regulations and shit getting engaged
>>with recreational anything can go get fuked as far as I reckon. I can
>>of no-where that commercial approach to climbing has benefitted recreational
>>climbers in the Blueys.
>But think of the children . . . With RRATA (recreational not industrial)
>1 you would be professionally able to climb safely with backups so long
>as an RRATA 2 did all your knots and rigging for you, and it would all
>be on a site professionally developed by an RRATA 3 using absolute best
>practice, fully certified... How else will the little kiddies be safe ....

Macciza I think if he wants to remove it from a website that's perfectly reasonable. I think I did my quoting incorrectly before and it wasn't snacks who quoted names.

wrt commercial stuff.... my view is it has brought in issues that climbing didn't need to worry about until there was a commercial aspect to the activity. They also tie up public recreational land and I kinda get the pips with that, it's a personal thing. If some climbers feel that they have benefitted in their lives from either being group 'guides' or learning in that environment, great. This is seperate from my feeling around commercial use of public lands and 'access rights' when in conflict with recreational users. That said, I'm hardly worrying about it on my cycle commute into town or bitching about it over a beer at the pub.

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