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Hardest Australian Trad Onsight 31-Jul-2004 At 6:37:39 PM maxots

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> .you have to understand though that they
>arent (and shouldnt have to) going to take it to heart when people who
>climb max. 1 or 2 days a week and some 15 grades lower start criticising
>them about their decisions (there is absolutely nothing wrong with climbing
>1 or 2 days a week and rarely seeing the other side of gd 20ish- but 'us'
>taking 'them' up on their climbing is kinda like a long jumper telling
>a sprinter how to run...). while its valid for all of 'us' to have opinions
>its not wrong, IMHO, for them to reject those opinions.

ok, so basically i was having a tease because Onsight had seemingly (and its hard to read tone in typed posts) gone for lee and neil after what was obviouslyt a tease about the onsight. And i think its perfectly acceptable for me who climbs 2 days a week to question a claimed onsight ascent if the climber had beta. > I was not doing this however, I couldn't care less whether she climbed the totem pole onsight or not, all i thought was that it was silly that Onsight seemingly (and again, if I read the tone wrong i apologise) went for two guys and insinuated a sexist comment. And those who climb 2 days a week are 99% of climbers....we can and should question the acts of others (once again, im not questioning, i dont care about moniques totem pole FLASH > giggle)

>>both righteous, and then immature in the same post
>
>sorry i must have missed something...where exactly did Simons post become
>immature? its the same as above only reversed- Simon is entitled to his
>opinion and its not immatureto express that, whether you appreciate it
>or not....

perhaps i read the below comment in the wrong light.
>>Lee. Neil. Monique asked me to pass on two words to you both: "up" and
>>"yours".
I find it immature to say "up yours" in a generally agressive post in response to an obvious tease > if this was n jest, the post didn't seem that way

>>M > "oh shit, man, i'm insecure about that one, etc etc etc

>dude even if that is a troll, its still not cool to say shit like that.
>i mean as i said above, opinions are fine, you have to express them in
>a slightly socially acceptableway if you want to be accepted as slightly
>socially acceptable, as has been pointed out to me in the past (hey mate
>im not callin myself righteous)

oh relax, i was just having a go, its an internet forum, get over it. and get over it if any of you guys care that much about onsighting or not.....