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Beulah Rock Festivus is no more... 20-Jun-2013 At 12:00:27 PM pecheur
On 20/06/2013 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 20/06/2013 Hawkman wrote:
>>an update from the festivus page s to why its not continuing. It was
>>great event and we loved being a part of it.
>>As much as Cliff and I love the Festivus, we decided that the exposure
>to public liabiltiy risk was just too much, and although the Festivus was
>amazing in every way, it is just not worth everything we own.
>>We talked with lawyers and insurance companies about the event and it
>became obvious:
>>waiver forms are not worth the paper they are written on, regardless
>of how comprehensive
>>the cost to have insurance cover the 4 day event would be prohibitively
>>it is not whether you win or loose a law suit, it is the thousands upon
>thousands of dollars spent defending yourself and/or settling out of court
>>nobody is accountable for their own actions anymore
>>if someone dies, or is severely injured, someone will come looking for
>money and it is simply not possible for Cliff or I to be removed from harms
>>Yes, the Festivus could go for another 20 years with nothing like that
>ever happening, we are just not willing to risk it anymore.
>>Think about it and put yourself in Cliff or my position while looking
>at your Family, your home, your car, your company, and see if you would
>make the same decision.
>Another nail in the common sense coffin, and while that lid is being banged
>shut, we die outside a slow death by a thousand cuts...
>I am not a boulderer, but the 'modern attitude litigious society' gets
>up my nose on their behalf this time.

I'm also not a boulderer but I also would have liked to have visited some day. However with public liability the way it is and a complete lack of personal* responsibility these days I think most people understand why the event was not worth the risk to the organisers.

* Personal also applying to family members who want to sue, often against the wishes of the person hurt.

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