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High-Altitude Brawl on Everest 4-May-2013 At 9:15:25 AM silver_13

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On 4/05/2013 Andrew_M wrote:
>There’s been a lot of complex analysis of this incident, but isn’t it more
>simple than all of that? Tick the ingredients off:
>
>(a) Young guys with lots of testosterone, who belong to a defined ethnic/cultural/religio
>s group
>(b) Highly emotionally charged situation (extra bonus points for being
>potentially life threatening)
>(c) Outsider(s) who deliberately offend some central beliefs of the first
>group

As far as I understand, no-one was offending beliefs of anyone.

>Try swapping in some Western equivalents and see if you think anyone’s
>going to avoid a trip to the ER:
>
>English football fans/losing world cup final to Germany/Stand outside
>stadium with megaphone yelling nationalistic abuse at English fans
>
My friend, a Russian businessman, who lived through rough times in Russia in the 90', said that the most threatening situation he's ever been too was in Italy when a crowd of English football fans was walking along the street smashing everything in sight. Mob out of control.
Sad it is like this on Everest now.

>Fundamentalist Muslim or Christian young men’s religious school/after
>a fiery sermon from the imam or preacher/stand outside with a megaphone
>and mock relevant prophet (maybe bring some placards with inflammatory
>cartoons to emphasise the point)
>
>Dangerouser Cliffs Australia members/in the middle of a chockstone flame
>war/spray on forum that you’re going to retrobolt The Eternity (make sure
>to give a specific time that you’ll be there to do it)
>
Yes, retrobolting definitely warrants this:

"They had big rocks and I think the leader was in front. I went to say something but couldn’t because I got punched in the face and hit in the head with a rock....

They then wanted him to come out on his knees, which he did, saying, “Sorry! Sorry! Sorry!” Then they started kicking his face and someone tried to stab him with a pen knife. They used rocks to hit us, crampons even. I tell you, they tried to kill us.
...
We were on a mission, going into deep valleys and crevasses and checking over our shoulders to see if they were coming after us. We crawled on our knees so they couldn’t see us."