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Rebolting Nowra 22-Jun-2012 At 4:21:25 PM muki

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On 22/06/2012 ARidgley wrote:
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>We do have the right to expect that a bolt is safe once we've clipped it.

I don't agree with this comment.
ALL climbing has to be assessed and judged by the participant before proceeding, sometimes that judgement is flawed or the risks are too subtle to be correctly identified by the participant.
The risk element is a given for all climbers, and they need own that, or walk away.
I agree with correcting obvious mistakes made by bolters that endanger the lives of a climber, but at the end of the day it's up to the individual to decide there fate.

>(1) Climbing at crag A is meant to be safe.
>(2) We can make climbing safe by correct bolting.

these comments above are just as flawed.
I tend to agree with the words bellow.
ODH Wrote
>That's true, it's just that the definition of safe has changed. 20 years ago a safe route >was one where "only a retard could hurt themselves". Now there seem to be lots of retards at the crag..........