Just wanted to say lots of people on this thread have no idea whatsoever!!
Simon, how can it not be valid? What a joke! If someone knocks a hold off The Bard that I didn't happen to use do I have to go back and repeat it?
Why doesn't anyone think Punks is Invalid, it was made easier not harder, and Wolfgang yo yo'd it anyway so we should give the first ascent to Jerry and to everyone who did it after the hold was glued your ascents are now INVALID!! This is a Joke!!!
Sequence forcing like this has gone on forever, like Mike says it's just not spoken about!
The other sequence was not much (if any) easier, Garth had tried the route for years and Lee and Zach did find it easier than Ben's way but both agree that it most likely would not have changed the grade!
Ben is not sponsored and has no will to be!
If you can't figure out who Hex Troll is you've got issues!
And on the other issue, bolting with ground fall potential is up to the first ascentionest, if your not up for the repeat,top rope it or try somthing with better pro!
There are thousands of well protected routes out there for the Pussies, we need to leave a few bold ones for those with the ability to climb them! |