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Inviting Partcipants for Research on Climbers
Mindtaker
11-Oct-2011
11:39:33 AM
Hi all,

I am a PhD candidate in sociology at the University of Newcastle and I’m inviting chockstoner’s to participate in interviews as a part of my research.

My research is concerned with looking at the way that climbers learn, maintain and make meaningful the variety of practices involved in being a part of the climbing community. This will be explored in my Doctoral dissersation Of Rock and Ice. My primary reseach is with Australian and North American climbing communities.

There are no real restrictions on criteria, as all levels of experience are relevant to the study.

I am hoping to conduct interviews in the Sydney area starting next week up until the end of October (Oct 17-29), with the possibility of spending a few weeks down in Victoria conducting interviews during mid-November.

If interested in participating, shoot me an email and I can give you more information at Matthew.Bunn@uon.edu.au

Cheers,
Matt
widewetandslippery
11-Oct-2011
11:45:10 AM
Remember all this lot can have you locked up if enough of them sign you off as certified.

vwills
11-Oct-2011
11:48:31 AM
Why dont you put up a message at pulse gym at Adamstown.
Dont ask me though. I dont understand your aim. It sounds like sociology gobbledygook.

BoulderBaby
11-Oct-2011
12:04:03 PM
Ron fawcett said that climbing is the best training for climbing. Read Dave Macleod book. He also says to spend as much time climbing.
lacto
11-Oct-2011
2:04:01 PM
Presumably you have to go to the climbers in these communitues in order to interview and presumably be on the rock/ice to prove you are worthy of interviewing the climbers . What a great topic for a thesis though you might actually have to write it up but could spend a couple of years doing the interviews (and climbing)
Wendy
11-Oct-2011
6:06:52 PM
On 11/10/2011 Mindtaker wrote:
>
>
>My research is concerned with looking at the way that climbers learn,
>maintain and make meaningful the variety of practices involved in being
>a part of the climbing community.

Can you run that by me again? I'm not actually sure what you are talking about. Do you mean the way climbers learn to climb? Or the way they learn to be part of the community? The practices of climbing itself? Or the practices of climbing culture? Does this mean like calling people bumblies, sandbagging, arguing about grades, the value of rps, style of ascent, whether boulderers really wear beanies?

Miguel75
11-Oct-2011
6:45:48 PM
Or you could just study people's posts on Chocky. You'll see plenty of people learning, maintaining and making meaningful a variety of practices within the climbing community....Some posts, from the more erudite members, even include logic and ocassionally, a point...

I for one yearn for the good old days when virgin sacrifice, burning of witches and random stoning for perceived slights were all an integral part of any worthwhile climbing community.

ChuckNorris
11-Oct-2011
6:59:14 PM
The answer is simple: "we maintain meaningful connections by hanging shit on eachother".

Shortest PhD ever.
j.l.d
11-Oct-2011
11:38:16 PM
surely this isn't a real question. Nobody would admit to being a sociologist on chockstone surely. Then follow that admission by stating an incoherent theme for a thesis?
Mindtaker
12-Oct-2011
8:00:33 AM
I'm happy to discuss what my research is about if people are interested, but it is sometimes difficult coming up with brief explanations that are not filled with sociology jargon. The process of trying to explain sociology to climbers is often much like trying to explain climbing to sociologists. My honours thesis had a couple of pages devoted to a glossary to help the poor reviewers come to grips with 'leading,' 'aiding', how it is possible to avoid falling and not dying etc.

One of the major reasons I chose to study climbing was because I enjoy sociology and going climbing. Which means I get to do research and go climbing, seemed like a pretty ideal situation.

However, while much of the research that has been done on climbing in sociology/anthropology has been by climbers, there are many accounts that I don't find satisfactory. Much of this is about rock climbing, ignoring the problems that are raised by the somewhat riskier practices of alpine and ice climbing. This is one of the reasons why my study is looking at ice climbing (and not just because I love ice climbing).

But this is also at least a 3 year project that will be covered in hundreds of pages of writing in the coming years. The interviews I am conducting at the moment will be 'preliminary' interviews, where I can take ask broad questions about aspects of climbing and allow climbers to help sort out what are the most engaging components of climbing. That way, over time I can narrow my focus, but not by some arbitrary decision I made before I had conducted any research.





cruze
12-Oct-2011
8:15:30 AM
You should read "Where Mountains Throw Their Dice" by Paul Hersey

It is an attempt to look into the mind of NZ climbers and their risk-taking and is well-written.

BoulderBaby
12-Oct-2011
8:24:26 PM
Ah! You should move to the UK. Lots of Opinionated Ice climbers.
bl@ke
12-Oct-2011
8:34:25 PM
Lots of wankers wanking on about Gaskins under their wanky campus boards too!

Maxo
13-Oct-2011
1:29:44 PM
How do you plan to adjust your results for the fact that self-selected respondents are likely to be self-promoting blow-hards?
Wendy
13-Oct-2011
5:12:37 PM
How do you get respondents for studies other than self selected? Should he hold a gun at someone's head at the crag and insist they talk to him?

hipdos
13-Oct-2011
7:39:42 PM
On 12/10/2011 Mindtaker wrote:
>
>One of the major reasons I chose to study climbing was because I enjoy
>sociology and going climbing. Which means I get to do research and go climbing,
>seemed like a pretty ideal situation.
>

This is great!
If you are new to this site you will not be ready for usual truckload of cynical carry on from some of the Chocky community. Take it in your stride.
widewetandslippery
13-Oct-2011
7:58:46 PM
Isn't soci..........can't be bothered spelling it an excuse for justoifying journy to ixtlan which is all lies anyyway (apart from running up hills that works)

vwills
13-Oct-2011
10:54:15 PM
Dont you think you are perhaps in the wrong country to be undertaking a study on the motivations and decision making processes in iceclimbers?
Or is this some further cunning plan that lets you spend half of the year in NZ?
Erik Monasterio, a NZ psychiatrist who climbs has published quite widely on the subject.
A friend of mine did a Masters in decision making /risk taking in outdoor pursuits- specifically mountaineering and white water kayaking in NZ. Science is always better if you are not reinventing the wheel. (I cant believe I referred to socialogy as science- it must be late!)

maxo
13-Oct-2011
11:52:06 PM
On 13/10/2011 Wendy wrote:
>How do you get respondents for studies other than self selected? Should
>he hold a gun at someone's head at the crag and insist they talk to him?
>

Yes, that is the only way.

ChuckNorris
13-Oct-2011
11:57:33 PM
On 13/10/2011 maxo wrote:
>On 13/10/2011 Wendy wrote:
>>How do you get respondents for studies other than self selected? Should
>>he hold a gun at someone's head at the crag and insist they talk to him?
>>
>
>Yes, that is the only way.

Yeh but getting the use of a gun passed through the university ethics board is a bit of a bugger. They get antsy even if you promise to use only a pretend gun.

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