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Yes. Tax me please. I love taxes. 59
No. Are you nuts ? 14
Ha ha, I don't pay any tax. 6

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OT: Plebiscite 23-Jun-2011 At 10:02:41 AM evanbb
On 23/06/2011 maxdacat wrote:
>I would disagree my ethics are bottom of the barrel, they are more geared
>towards opposing bad policy. As stated above the reason I consider the
>tax bad policy is because it does nothing to achieve it's aim of reducing
>carbon emissions, due to the compensation element. It is also unilateral
>action which given the lack of international consensus can be likened to
>pi$$ing in the wind. These are two quite big issues with the proposal
>and fairly compelling reasons not to support it. I haven't heard yet heard
>a cogent rebuttal on here from you or anyone else, in fact i've been characterised
>as a "moron" and a "denialist". The quality of arguments for the pro side
>seem a bit lacking.

Right, and I'm here to tell you your reasons for opposing the policy are wrong.

Taxing electricity at the source will change the bidding order into the National Electricity Market to fabvour electricity sources with lower carbon emissions. THIS WILL CHANGE OUR EMISSIONS PROFILE. The tax will then be partially redistributed to compensate the people less able to pay. So, if you say again that it will achieve nothing you have read nothing and do not want to listen.

And I didn't say your ethics were at the bottom of the barrel, but at the lowest common denominator; IE your ethics seem to be based on 'I think it's okay to do the same as everyone else'. I strongly disagree and gave reasons why.

There is a strong moral case for unilateral action.

And don't give me this shit about it being unilateral anyway. The EU have had a trading system for a DECADE. Trot out what ever nonsense you have about it being ineffective, but it is an outrageous lie to suggest we are in anyway pioneering on this stuff.

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