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OT: Plebiscite 23-Jun-2011 At 9:43:56 AM uwhp510

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On 23/06/2011 maxdacat wrote:
>The quality of arguments for the pro side seem a bit lacking.

Maybe they seem a bit lacking to you, Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones but that's surely more to do with your particular ideological bent rather than the quality of the respective arguments.

For example;

>I consider the tax bad policy is because it does nothing to achieve it's aim of reducing >carbon emissions, due to the compensation element
vs
>Energy generating companies know which projects will be viable for a given price on >carbon/price of electricity.

The effect of a tax is not solely to convince people to use less power by making it more expensive (which compensation would partially negate anyway). Its about changing the relative cost of technologies and properly accounting for and pricing the massive costs imposed on the entire world population by carbon emitters, which is a large part of why the dirty technologies are so cheap anyway.

Imagine being provided a cheap service that required the company providing the service to take $5* out of the wallet of everyone on the planet each week, whether or not they used it. Seem fair?

*Just an example amount, not supposed to be representative of the actual average cost of climate change (which who the hell knows anyway).