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wood fires at Arapiles 16-Jun-2011 At 3:48:17 PM crazyjohn
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On 16/06/2011 fingernailsarepretty wrote:
>i hope the forum contributors who are against a shorter campfire season
>will put as much effort into their counter-proposals as they have into
>their chockstone posts.

>>perhaps we should have approached the keepers of the continuous, large,
>ill-gotten campfire to explain to them our concerns and to see if a compromise
>could have been reached.

No offense, but... Duh! However, thanks for bothering to write on this forum and I dont want to discourage your participation. But I think you realize that, yes you should have talked to them if you were concerned.I think it is obvious that parks cannot be expected to enforce every violation. You should not feel in personal danger to confront people who are inappropriately collecting wood and you did not say you were afraid. So then how can you expect people on this forum to do anything proactive when you refuse to do it yourself?

I hope this does not sound like a lecture but you point out one group who spent four days collecting this wood. No one else. And you did not confront them. So according to your anecdote, if you would have confronted this one group on the first day you noticed the wood being removed, it could have prevented much more wood collection. If you had confronted them and they were violent jerks, it is likely that having an "official" fire ban would not stop them anyway.

I dont see collecting wood as the problem some people are making it but to answer your question about counter-proposals, just read the dozens of suggestions given in this thread. Suggestions that were apparently dismissed without trial by the AAC.

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