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Bolting in the Warrumbungles 6-Jun-2011 At 12:15:45 PM garbie
On 6/06/2011 martym wrote:
>On 5/06/2011 king335 wrote:
>> I cant believe that you are using the "it's hard to retreat" line
>>on cornerstone as reason to bolt it. Listen to yourself. the climb is
>>180m grade 14. one of the easiest climbs out there. if climbers aren't
>>competent to retreat off CR (which should only need be done if a climber
>>is injured or rained on) then they should probably climb somewhere else
>>first and gain the knowledge and experience they need to climb safley
>>the bungles. (from what i could find out from NPWS no one has been killed
>>in any climbing related accidents in the nation park so far.)
>>it's not your local city crag with rescue services a short 10-30mins
>>you need to be able to look after your self out there.
>Of course, in this emergency situation, removing the rap will make it
>that little bit harder - and when someone finally does die on CR - you
>can be sure the Newspapers will be scrutinising this forum post and questioning
>your authority to make these choices.

An Interesting point. But what the media says will inevitably be ill-informed, so what they say is in one way irrelevant to whether the action of adding the bolts or chopping was ethically correct. But media attention can have other effects like helping to get climbing banned etc, so in that way it is relevant. But I'd say media opinions should be kept out of the debate.

Not sure if you're laying a guilt trip on here martym, if someone does die? I don't think thats fair, if its ethically right to chop the bolts (not saying it is), then the chopper shouldn't be held responsible for an accident, that would be a very slippery slope for people who bolt anywhere, anytime.

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