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Bolting at Piddo 11-May-2011 At 10:24:59 PM tnd

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Stu, if you think these climbs you mention - a lot of which are chossy crap - Thunderfart - WTF! - are so safe, then I look forward to seeing you jumping off a couple, say a nice 2m fall to see how well your gear holds. At least one of the routes has had a serious accident when gear pulled.

I guess you've done Snap, Crackle and Pop at Mt York. Lovely easy grade beginners' routes. Only a few fatalities between them. Or The Obituary - three deaths on one route.

I'd rather see beginners pull laps of the few safely bolted low grade routes around, get to grade 18 competently and consistently and then get onto the crap trad routes. That's if they want to spend a shit load of money on bits of metal.