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Should hijacked usernames be allowed on Chocky?

nmonteith
1/02/2013
10:10:21 AM
Should we allow a user to create a name that simply duplicates an already well known users name but adds a single letter (or symbol) difference? For example "ratherbeclimbinV9." as apposed to "ratherbeclimbinV9"

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Miguel75
1/02/2013
10:39:42 AM
I'm not a fan of modifying existing names slightly (adding a full stop etc) or even hijacking usernames...

EDIT: If the modification is for malicious purposes I'm not stoked. If it's for a bit of fun I'm ok with it... Ambiguous I know...

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/02/2013
10:40:53 AM
On 1/02/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>Should we allow a user to create a name that simply duplicates an already
>well known users name but adds a single letter (or symbol) difference?
>For example "ratherbeclimbinV9." as apposed to "ratherbeclimbinV9"

What do you expect to be an outcome?

What about when two registered users swap their ID's, as has happened more than once; ... sometimes deliberate, sometimes hijacked while they were impersonating?

What about when user ID's are similar(?), eg the example you used vs mine, ... (though I view it as a pseudoform of flattery resulting from a slight lack of imagination on part of the imitator).

What about multiple user ID's of some posters?

Do you think things will be more civil and greater respect abound if everyone was clearly identified?
~> Good luck with that, as I already note plenty of stirrers who post regularly that wouldn't worry about it, based on their post history to date!

It is all a game, and keeping up with the evolution of it I find interesting from time to time.
martym
1/02/2013
10:42:50 AM
hard to police...
how many "daves" "davids" davos" are there?

Does it make a real difference?
What I find confusing is when people change their names - you never know who said what...

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/02/2013
10:50:51 AM
On 1/02/2013 martym wrote:
>hard to police...
>how many "daves" "davids" davos" are there?
>
+1

>Does it make a real difference?
>What I find confusing is when people change their names - you never know
>who said what...

Maybe the Mods could create a sticky thread with latest updates of who has become who, who has deleted their posts, etc?

I think it likely to be more work than they would want, and I tend to respect the fact that some people try to limit their digital footprint from identifying them, for a whole range of reasons apart from simple stirring on a website where their true identity is known by many anyway.

rodw
1/02/2013
10:51:06 AM
Yeah just make the name they created account with stick..no changing.
martym
1/02/2013
11:14:50 AM
On 1/02/2013 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>Maybe the Mods could create a sticky thread with latest updates of who
>has become who, who has deleted their posts, etc?
Like you've done in your profile :)

>I tend to respect the fact that some people try to limit their digital
>footprint from identifying them,
I have no objection to anonymity - but at least consistent anonymity - you can always create a NEW user if you want to detach yourself from your previous "Avatar"...
the idea of Banning a user is always funny - you can't (as far as I'm aware) ban an IP address

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/02/2013
11:37:19 AM
On 1/02/2013 martym wrote:
>On 1/02/2013 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>>Maybe the Mods could create a sticky thread with latest updates of who
>>has become who, who has deleted their posts, etc?
>Like you've done in your profile :)
>
True.
Additionally I note that one's current ID overwrites all one's previous posts on their account with the new ID, so to that extent there is consistency.

>>I tend to respect the fact that some people try to limit their digital
>>footprint from identifying them,
>I have no objection to anonymity - but at least consistent anonymity -
>you can always create a NEW user if you want to detach yourself from your
>previous "Avatar"...
>the idea of Banning a user is always funny - you can't (as far as I'm
>aware) ban an IP address

I wouldn't know, but the 'real' Eduardo Slabofvic has posted more than once about IP address masking software.

Miguel75
1/02/2013
12:06:13 PM
Another username hijacking thread;

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=108373&PagePos=&Sort=&Replies=28&MsgPagePos=20

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/02/2013
12:18:36 PM
On 1/02/2013 Miguel75 wrote:
>Another username hijacking thread;

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=108373&PagePos=&Sort=&Replies=28&MsgPagePos=20

It is interesting that the poll attached to that thread had more options, and that the result was that 50% more votes were recorded in the (effectively) 'who cares?' bracket, than the outright 'no' camp.

nmonteith
1/02/2013
12:26:08 PM
Wow - i wasn't expecting such a one sided result! (I don't include a "whatever" option as doing nothing and keeping the status quo is the same as a vote yes)

I was more worried about the extreme end of the wedge - where users are deliberately matching someone elses username so they can trick the casual reader into thinking they are that person. It's been happening a bit recently - and can be very confusing.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/02/2013
12:35:46 PM
On 1/02/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>I was more worried about the extreme end of the wedge - where users are
>deliberately matching someone elses username so they can trick the casual
>reader into thinking they are that person. It's been happening a bit recently
>- and can be very confusing.

Confusing? Yes, potentially; however there are also some interesting insights on that other thread from some of the perpetrators of this practise.
Amongst themselves (ie the minor contingent who it seems to matter to), they have their fun, and things eventually stabilise again.

Re
>(I don't include a "whatever" option as doing nothing and keeping the status quo is the same as a vote yes)

*shrugs* I think there is a difference, and am in the "whatever" camp myself.



The good Dr
1/02/2013
1:15:48 PM
On 1/02/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>Wow - i wasn't expecting such a one sided result! (I don't include a "whatever"
>option as doing nothing and keeping the status quo is the same as a vote
>yes)
>

Bet you didn't know that all the votes were from hijacked user names.
rolsen1
1/02/2013
1:23:53 PM
Mike is never going to have the time to code these changes so I think we need to charge M9 with creating a thread and keeping it up to date with the changed usernames :)

Alternatively, the mods could just ban for good stugang, davidn, muki, pastor gerry narowikiz and one day hero (I know ODH doesn't change his username, but if you're banning that lot he may as well be banned as well).
dalai
1/02/2013
4:10:34 PM
On 1/02/2013 The good Dr wrote:
>On 1/02/2013 nmonteith wrote:
>>Wow - i wasn't expecting such a one sided result! (I don't include a
>"whatever"
>>option as doing nothing and keeping the status quo is the same as a vote
>>yes)
>>
>
>Bet you didn't know that all the votes were from hijacked user names.

Actually not one vote yet...

stugang
Online Now
1/02/2013
8:36:43 PM
On 1/02/2013 rolsen1 wrote:
>
>Alternatively, the mods could just ban for good stugang, davidn, muki,
>pastor gerry narowikiz and one day hero (I know ODH doesn't change his
>username, but if you're banning that lot he may as well be banned as well).

But all of those usernames are me? and you forgot about the others....

IdratherbeclimbingM9
1/02/2013
10:18:00 PM
On 1/02/2013 rolsen1 wrote:
>Mike is never going to have the time to code these changes so I think we
>need to charge M9 with creating a thread and keeping it up to date with
>the changed usernames :)
>
Given the amount of duplicate threads that happen, along with repeats of (what have now become) standard questions asked on Chockstone; I seriously doubt that people will take the time to search/cross reference reading a second thread to try and make sense of a first thread User-ID-anomaly.

>Alternatively, the mods could just ban for good stugang, davidn, muki,
>pastor gerry narowikiz and one day hero (I know ODH doesn't change his
>username, but if you're banning that lot he may as well be banned as well).

Along with the point I made above, I think the most practical alternative is to simply take it for what it is, ie light hearted fun amongst a few recidivists, and enjoy the fun (if it appeals), or ignore* it if it doesn't make sense.
(*Easy to do with the 'ignore function' available when the user profile is clicked on).

I have managed to turn the confusion into a Chocky positive (for me), and have my own fun in trying to decipher the changes and keep up with them (for the most part); but I acknowledge that this approach is considered bent by most Chocky readers, especially if they don't have time to do it.

If ever the content of an imposter post/s becomes an aggravation to the original ID, then fair enough, bin the imposter, and delete the offending post/s, but so far I have not read anything posted from those directly affected voicing concern about it.

So far, 252 people logged in today and 29 voted. Even with time lag adjustment of numbers, this says to me that most Chocky readership couldn't care less about the issue!

Eduardo Slabofvic
2/02/2013
12:36:06 AM
On 1/02/2013 Eduardo Slabovic wrote:
>
>
>But all of those usernames are me? and you forgot about the others....

That cause you know so much about ID addresses and stuff. Looser!

stugang
Online Now
2/02/2013
4:56:20 PM
On 2/02/2013 Spugang wrote:
>On 1/02/2013 Eduardo Slabovic wrote:
>>
>>
>>But all of those usernames are me? and you forgot about the others....
>
>That cause you know so much about ID addresses and stuff. Looser!

I may be loose but not as loose as you after your donkey night.

sicko

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