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30-Nov-2010 7:29:20 AM
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Beth Rodden on her shoulder and finger injuries and wearing helmets: http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/news-2/2010/11/11/beth-roddens-long-road-recovery-part-4
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30-Nov-2010 11:03:52 AM
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Just to add another aspect.
We were climbing at Frog the other day. I was belaying from on top of 'Humility' and could hear some rustling and movement over my left shoulder.
A few small rocks started coming down and I looked over to see a big goanna crawling around.
A few minutes later, fist sized rocks and bigger started coming down, then it really started to rain down rocks everywhere.
Not only that, the next thing a goanna came flying down and landed in a tree, followed by another one!
I don't know if they were fighting, or if the larger one was a boy chasing the smaller girl one, but there was a pretty healthy amount or rock and the threat of being hit by a goanna.
Two days ago, we were climbing at a remote cliff, very solid fine grained granite.
I was belaying and a huge foot round piece of rock flaked off under the weight of the climbers foot.
I was at this stage just thinking of how to best belay a potential fall from exactly this spot as there was a potential for a bad swing into a corner.
The rock hit the slabby face below and broke up.
My helmet gave me the ability to keep an eye on the climber whilst I dodged the debris and keep him from damage.
So for anybody out there that thinks that they can predict when a helmet is required, just look out for goanna's and unseeable flaws in the rock.
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30-Nov-2010 11:07:11 AM
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> the threat of being hit by a goanna
That would have been one hilarious accident report.
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30-Nov-2010 11:34:59 AM
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I work full time and live in Sydney. Why should I wear a helmet?
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30-Nov-2010 12:59:47 PM
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On 30/11/2010 widewetandslippery wrote:
>I work full time and live in Sydney. Why should I wear a helmet?
To protect your forehead when you start headbutting your desk after you realize your predicament? ;-)
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30-Nov-2010 1:08:05 PM
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I can honestly say my skull happily bounces away when I do that, not sure whether you call it practise or training.
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30-Nov-2010 1:28:48 PM
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On 30/11/2010 widewetandslippery wrote:
>I work full time and live in Sydney. Why should I wear a helmet?
Getting shot, knifed, run over by a bus, sold crap deals - wearing a helmet in Sydney will prevent this. One smart thing I have noticed you do Dave is drink with your helmet on. One can get drunk, fall over, get punched in the head etc. and no damage :-)
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30-Nov-2010 2:00:53 PM
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Mulchy as embarressed as I am to say thats what my head actually looks like. Blue.
oh, I've never been shot.
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30-Nov-2010 2:34:57 PM
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Interesting thread.
I have a daughter who climbs, my other child, my son, is a keen downhill mountain bike racer, and I do a fair bit of mountain biking as well.
Us boys in the House of Rex consider bike helmets to be a consumable item, we usually destroy a couple every year crashing our bikes. When you play so-called "dangerous" sports, safety needs to be a habit, or you don't have much longevity. We wouldn't go for a ride without a helmet any more than we would go out of the house without our under pants.
I'm hoping I can instill the same habitual approach to safety in my daughter and get her to always wear a helmet when climbing, at least outdoors.
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30-Nov-2010 7:05:52 PM
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On 30/11/2010 ajfclark wrote:
>Beth Rodden on her shoulder and finger injuries and wearing helmets: http://www.petzl.com/
>s/outdoor/news-2/2010/11/11/beth-roddens-long-road-recovery-part-4
Ha! Beth can climb 5.13 but still falls off Central Pillar of Frenzy? There must be some hope for me yet .. somewhere ..
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1-Dec-2010 5:09:32 AM
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On 30/11/2010 gfdonc wrote:
>Ha! Beth can climb 5.13 but still falls off Central Pillar of Frenzy?
> There must be some hope for me yet .. somewhere ..
Have you done that pitch?!? It's horrible!! A nasty water- and bicycling-bumbly- polished snot slick granite chimney. A classic Valley "5.9" sandbag... ...easy to fall off no matter how hard you climb.
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1-Dec-2010 4:38:01 PM
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Yes I have. A little sketchy but I led it fine, OS. Old-school bridging skills were useful.
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7-Dec-2010 11:26:18 AM
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re the helmet in the car scenario...in a car you have airbags!
you'd wear one on a motorbike wouldn't you?
it doesnt speak anything about whether you will hurt yourself but if things go wrong whether you want it on or not. personal choice? yes.
and for me the answer is yes too.
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7-Dec-2010 12:15:02 PM
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On 30/11/2010 widewetandslippery wrote:
>I work full time and live in Sydney. Why should I wear a helmet?
In case you hit your head. Duh!
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7-Dec-2010 1:57:54 PM
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On 7/12/2010 dmnz wrote:
>re the helmet in the car scenario...in a car you have airbags!
maybe in your car! i'm sure i'm not the only one with a car that predates airbags. actually, that might not be a bad thing as I suspect i am the size where airbags cause injury, that whole don't put a child in the front seat stuff.
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7-Dec-2010 9:10:53 PM
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http://thegoat.backcountry.com/2008/08/14/yakkay-helmet-hats-for-people-who-want-to-look-like-me-or-my-friend-tom/
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7-Dec-2010 9:11:50 PM
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Or this:
http://www.edelrid.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=624&Itemid=792
So your belayer thinks you're watching them when they're on lead...
but then, why stop at the helmet when you can go full body armour?
http://hardgeek.org/21-sparkling-armour-concept-designs
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7-Dec-2010 9:17:17 PM
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On 30/11/2010 TeeRex wrote:
We wouldn't go for a ride without a helmet any more
>than we would go out of the house without our under pants.
agree re the rest of the post but is this last bit safety though? ;)
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