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22-May-2012 6:52:51 PM
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Route finding looks difficult
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22-May-2012 7:19:07 PM
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oh dear. it's gone mainstream!
http://www.smh.com.au/world/everests-fatal-traffic-jam-150-climbers-scramble-for-top-20120522-1z2tt.html
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22-May-2012 7:41:00 PM
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On 22/05/2012 Eduardo Slabofvic. wrote:
>Route finding looks difficult
Don't make fun of them, they're all delicate flowers who just want to achieve their dream.
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22-May-2012 8:05:14 PM
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On 22/05/2012 Duncan wrote:
>On 22/05/2012 Eduardo Slabofvic. wrote:
>>Route finding looks difficult
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>Don't make fun of them, they're all delicate flowers who just want to
>achieve their dream.
They could get a grope discount on the photos, an play rock scisors paper for who gets to carry the camera in order to save effort for the summit attempt.
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22-May-2012 9:30:58 PM
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If they are all in the same bunch at the end don't they get the same time?
So why do they all keep going after the first one makes it up?
As soon as the first gets there, all turn around and get back down and take the identical result.
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22-May-2012 9:35:18 PM
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A new take on the human centipede!
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23-May-2012 10:01:59 AM
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http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1827215/Guiding-Everest-is-not-morally-defensible
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23-May-2012 10:06:44 AM
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There was this note from earlier in the year might be interesting too: http://www.rockandice.com/news/1960-everest-too-dangerous
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23-May-2012 10:13:16 AM
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On 23/05/2012 Fish Boy wrote:
>http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1827215/Guiding-Everest-is-not-morally-defensible
That was pretty much what I was saying when that Chockstoner did it a few years back. Jus' sayin'.
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23-May-2012 10:34:34 AM
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"they've got the peleton strung out like crazy"
You're not joking, this is "Aydin Irmak, the Turkish New Yorker who'd wanted to carry his steel bicycle to the summit" refered to on page 3 of the Outside story (link below) I managed to get a few photo's (19th April) as we passed him not far from EBC on his way there. Crazy guy, who would take a bike up Everest with road tyres everyone knows you need at least nobblies for that.
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/mountaineering/everest-2012/Five-Confirmed-Dead-in-Two-Days-on-Everest-and-Lhotse.html?page=3
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24-May-2012 6:29:16 AM
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On 23/05/2012 Duncan wrote:
>On 23/05/2012 Fish Boy wrote:
>>http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1827215/Guiding-Everest-is-not-morally-defensibl
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>That was pretty much what I was saying when that Chockstoner did it a
>few years back. Jus' sayin'.
And I happen to agree with you, wholeheartedly....
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24-May-2012 7:39:38 AM
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11 confirmed deaths now this season: http://www.rockandice.com/news/1989-11-dead-on-everest
Though it's odd this story uses the word presumed a lot too...
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24-May-2012 11:45:57 AM
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If someone has been at 8,300m for four days with no oxygen, I think "presumed dead" is little more than a euphemism.
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24-May-2012 12:10:45 PM
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I haven't been following this very closely so I didn't know he'd been there four days. If they'd said "stranded for four days" I would've have mentioned it.
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24-May-2012 1:27:15 PM
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It appears he's actually alive. I guess that's why they say "presumed dead".
http://www.outsideonline.com/blog/everest-death-toll-climbs-to-10-eleventh-climber-is-presumed-dead.html
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26-May-2012 1:52:53 PM
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On 24/05/2012 Duncan wrote:
>It appears he's actually alive. I guess that's why they say "presumed
>dead".
>http://www.outsideonline.com/blog/everest-death-toll-climbs-to-10-eleventh-climber-is-pre
>umed-dead.html
I am quite sure I have this correct, but Luigi Rampini has been been going to Everest North side for several years now with the Monterosa "team" which is a very basic outfit which has a reputation for having their members get into trouble on Everest.
Luigi is a former Rail Department worker from Milan in Italy. In 2010, he was using his Hi Vis rail worker jacket as his "Everest" jacket (not kidding you!!) and he made it as high as the North Col at 7,000m I believe. For his age, he is a fit and tough oldly and we all wondered how high he would get. We assisted him at ABC (6,400m) as he was suffering from some exhaustion and a really sore throat. Good to hear that he has been rescued as the last thing Everest needs is more bodies on it.
p.s. reading all the reports, the guy with the bike I think summited, but not with the bike (which he has had to leave near Namche at 3,400m!)
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26-May-2012 4:26:26 PM
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We saw the dude with the bike near Gorak Shep back in late April, must have been his first go, unless a trend is developing.
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26-May-2012 5:02:45 PM
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Andy Kirkpatrick, telling it like it is:
http://www.andy-kirkpatrick.com/blog/view/everest_sucking_on_the_barrel
Although I thoroughly disagree with:
"Most of the hand wringing by ‘proper’ climbers is all tied up with jealousy and the envy of opportunity, and everyone knows that deep down they’d suck the devils c--k to climb it."
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3-Jun-2012 3:57:02 PM
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Intresting article on a recap of the Everest 2012 season called " Everest 2012: Season Recap: A study in risk management" here:
http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2012/05/30/everest-2012-season-recap-a-study-in-risk-management/
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3-Jun-2012 10:49:12 PM
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Carrying a bike up? There should be someone at basecamp punching stupid people like this...
When I worked at Snowbird (the greatest ski resort on the US west coast, bar Jackson Hole, owned by the original 7 summiter Dick Bass) I was once asked while on workcover to photocopy a book for him to take on one of his upcoming expeditions... I got to chat with him about his experiences and he had some pretty groovy stories to tell. He seemed pretty open about not being a 'climber' and the fact that he was guided up the mountains, and also about Kosciuszko being a pretty easy send:) Either way I came away pretty impressed with his tenacity, and wealth:)
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