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Osteopath or Physio recommendation Melbourne?
johnk
2-Dec-2014
11:27:29 AM
Hi guys,

Just wondering if someone can recommend a good osteo or physio to look at my shoulder in the inner suburbs. The closer to Brunswick the better.

Thanks,

John k.
rb
2-Dec-2014
11:56:15 AM
Can you make it south of the river?

Simon Balster and Lyn Watson at Sportscare Prahran are both shoulder experts. I've been seeing Simon pre- and post- surgical reconstruction after he was recommended to me by someone from this forum (I think?).
JohnK
2-Dec-2014
1:58:12 PM
On 2/12/2014 rb wrote:
>Can you make it south of the river?
>


Thanks RB - can make it south of the river. Ideally I think an Osteo or well qualified Physio that can have a look at report and an ultrasound that I have as well. Just googled these guys and they both seem like shoulder experts.

phil_nev
2-Dec-2014
4:02:34 PM
I see David Howard at Pascoe Vale Osteopathy John, he is great. Has definitly helped me with my back problems.

Nice and close to brunswick too.

Pascoe Vale Oesteopathy
46 Gaffney St, Pascoe Vale VIC 3044
(03) 9379 3888
patto
2-Dec-2014
6:15:13 PM
That is sort of like asking for priest and doctor recommendations to treat your cancer...

Physiotherapy and a osteopathy are not at all similar. One is science and one is not.

phil_nev
2-Dec-2014
6:27:25 PM
On 2/12/2014 patto wrote:
>That is sort of like asking for priest and doctor recommendations to treat
>your cancer...
>
>Physiotherapy and a osteopathy are not at all similar. One is science
>and one is not.


And which is which?
patto
2-Dec-2014
10:29:19 PM
On 2/12/2014 phil_nev wrote:
>And which is which?

I would encourage you to do your own education in this regard. Wikipedia, like many things is a good start.

(In my experience faith and beliefs in unscientific practices are strongly held and even more strongly defended when challenged. Hence I encourage people to do their own education.)
rb
3-Dec-2014
8:29:28 AM
In short, osteo = very little to no evidence of benefits when assessed scientifically. AKA quackery.
Physio = evidence-based, proven benefits through multiple studies.

I'm not saying that osteo treatment is necessarily a waste of time and money. At least you'll get a good massage.

phil_nev
3-Dec-2014
8:43:23 AM
Not going to argue with you that as I haven't done the research. What I can say is that in my experience with seeing loads of different types of practitioners (Myo's, physio, oesteo, Chinese medicine to name a few) is that I have found the Oesteo to be most beneficial.

In all my experiences with physios, none of them like to get their hands dirty. Typically 5-10 min treatment followed by 20-30mins of telling you what exercises to do. And $70-$100 for the privilege.

I have found with an Oesteo (at least the one I see, who has sports and rehab background), I get physical therapy/massage, joint manipulation, exercises guidance and advice to go with the exercises..


All that being said, treatment is really only a small part of sorting out an injury. You have to make the time to do your rehab exercises, core strengthening etc in your own time, otherwise treatments will be a waste of time regardless of who you see.
gfdonc
3-Dec-2014
9:40:45 AM
I'm with you Phil.
argos44
3-Dec-2014
11:05:07 AM
I'm with Phil as well. I'm sure there is good physio's out there but I've never seen one . Only Osteo's have ever helped me.

rodw
3-Dec-2014
1:53:33 PM
All i know is in our touch footy team we have 2 Physios and they are the only ones out with season ending injuries before the season even started...maybe they need a good osteo?
jprockbelly
3-Dec-2014
3:04:02 PM
On 3/12/2014 phil_nev wrote:
>Typically 5-10 min treatment followed by 20-30mins of telling you
>what exercises to do.

Maybe that's because they know this:

>All that being said, treatment is really only a small part of sorting
>out an injury. You have to make the time to do your rehab exercises, core
>strengthening etc in your own time, otherwise treatments will be a waste
>of time regardless of who you see.

:)

Personally I've had some good success seeing a sports physio for back problems (herniated disks). I also went through a number of practitioners, osteo, chiro, physio etc. They all more or less gave me the same treatment and advice. In my case the physio was quited experienced and definitely not afraid to make me feel the pain.

phil_nev
3-Dec-2014
3:18:59 PM
On 2/12/2014 patto wrote:
>On 2/12/2014 phil_nev wrote:
>>And which is which?
>
>I would encourage you to do your own education in this regard. Wikipedia,
>like many things is a good start.

Haha. Basing your level of informed-ness on Wikipedia knowledge. Gold!
patto
3-Dec-2014
5:48:51 PM
On 3/12/2014 phil_nev wrote:
>Haha. Basing your level of informed-ness on Wikipedia knowledge. Gold!

Actually I inform myself through a variety of means and methods. (Though Wikipedia has far more credibility than somebody practicing alternative medicine that has no scientific basis.)

I suggested that YOU begin your education with wikipedia. If you wish to consult peer reviewed scientific journals then go ahead.


But I shall desist in this line of discussion. Likewise I won't persuade somebody against calling for their priest to treat their cancer.
dicky
3-Dec-2014
6:26:05 PM
Wow man which Osteo broke your heart?

that's some full on osteo hate you got goin on right there fella, need a hug?

maybe a little belly rub?

there that's better

IdratherbeclimbingM9
3-Dec-2014
9:35:47 PM
On 3/12/2014 dicky wrote:
>need a hug?
>
Gotta watch those Chocky group-hugs.
They could become contagious!*

(*More than a few User ID's might need like one...)
;-)

phil_nev
4-Dec-2014
8:48:28 AM
On 3/12/2014 patto wrote:
>On 3/12/2014 phil_nev wrote:
>>Haha. Basing your level of informed-ness on Wikipedia knowledge. Gold!

Oesteos get to call themselves Doctors and do an additional year of study.
Physios don't.

Just sayin :)

rodw
4-Dec-2014
8:56:45 AM
Both Chiro and osteo call themselves Dr but are not recognized by the AMA as such..just sayin :)

Physio don't call themselves doctors as they follow the AMA rules.

kieranl
4-Dec-2014
9:10:38 AM
And Dr Hero is also entitled to call himself "doctor". Perhaps a course of literary criticism and a follow-up reading-list will fix what ails you.

There are good and brilliant practitioners in all these fields and also those who are little better than quacks, whatever particular discipline they specialise in. The trick is to find one who is good and who works for you.

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