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French climbers in Australia during August
5:08:33 AM
I will be in Australia during next august and I am looking for some climbers to climb with. I like to climb in many style (trad, multipitches, sport ...). I plan to be between Sydney en Adelaide, I will land in Sydney beginning of august, and my fly back is from Adelaide at he end of august.
I am also interested by advices/informations about climbing, travel,the life ... in Australia.

Thank you for yours help

12:14:22 AM
peux etre je peux t aide avec les conseilles ou allez et quoi faire 'dis moi quesque tu veux savoir?

12:47:02 AM
Follow the great divide from the blue Mt's to the Flinders ranges. Don't forget Melb as in many ways it rocks.

10:50:59 AM
On 30/05/2011 skegly wrote:
>Don't forget Melb as in many ways it rocks.

One of the many ways it doesn't rock is in the rock department, however...

11:00:21 AM
On 30/05/2011 pmonks wrote:
>One of the many ways it doesn't rock is in the rock department, however...

That's a scurrilous slur pmonks! What about the Richmond railway bridge; Lysterfield boulders and of course, my favourites, Ben Cairn & Werribee Gorge? ;)

1:07:42 PM
Heaps around Melbourne, camels hump, mt Alexander, black hills etc etc And then there is the odd spot on the road between Melbourne and Adelaide :)

1:19:43 PM
On 30/05/2011 skegly wrote:
>Heaps around Melbourne, camels hump, mt Alexander, black hills etc etc

Yep - I'd travel from France to climb at those mega crags - especially in the dead of winter. :-)

3:29:26 PM
On 30/05/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>On 30/05/2011 skegly wrote:
>>Heaps around Melbourne, camels hump, mt Alexander, black hills etc etc
>Yep - I'd travel from France to climb at those mega crags - especially
>in the dead of winter. :-)

There's always the 'Smith Rocks' of the west; or as others call it, Melton Creek. If you're here in winter go surfing... You'll get some epic wave somewhere!
Mike Bee
11:21:49 PM
Only a month, that's tricky.
You'll be able to explore some awesome areas just enough to get a taste of them, or you'll be able to spend a decent amount of time in perhaps two.

I'd suggest that the four big locations to check out in August (between Sydney and Adelaide) would be the Blue Mountains (2.5 hours west of Sydney, probably cold and wet in August), The Grampians ( 3 hours west of Melbourne, 5 hours east of Adelaide, probably cold and wet too), Mt Arapiles (equidistance from Adelaide and Melbourne, cold, probably less wet) and Moonarie Gap (5 hours north of Adelaide, cold, probably dryish).
There's lots of other climbing in between too, but these are probably the 4 world class locations that are worth checking out if you're only over for a month. If you have a preference for trad, you might prefer to some extra time at Araps and the Moon. If you like clipping bolts (but still have trad options), then the Bluies and Gramps might be more your cup of tea.

12:16:58 AM
guys you are so full of s...

12:19:20 AM
this is coming from france to climb the richmond bridge lol

11:15:01 AM
There is also the Mt Buffalo! But climbing aside the landscape around all these sites will blow away most.
12:40:59 PM
skegly the victorian landscape is rather null to most. The vic south coast though is exceptional.

My 2 cents is blueys/nowra. If nowra go to point perp even if only to tope rope (you need natural gear and a head for the place) as it is a spectacular place to climb. Go to araps. you'll get something climbed and the climbing is as good as it gets. If at araps and the weather looks good head to grampians.

But honestly frankie head to nangar.
3:12:38 PM
I don't know about this but I am very interesting in this tast.Its really very interesting.Guys you all enjoys this very much.
Karl Bromelow
7:32:00 PM
On 31/05/2011 skegly wrote:

........ climbing aside the landscape around all these sites will blow away most.

(With reference to the Victorian locations mentioned previously). Aye, if you're idea of heaven is Iowa and you're wobbly in a light breeze. I don't think a French man should worry too much about being overwhelmed down here unless he's never ventured out of his living room.

11:36:10 PM
Kaj, We all live in heaven and hell. Even a blind man would notice in awe a place like Grampians.

Take a walk into some of our forests or along some of our beaches!

Karl Bromelow
12:46:44 PM
On 11/06/2011 skegly wrote:

>Take a walk into some of our forests or along some of our beaches!

I do the latter almost every day as I live on the coast and surf here. The forests, I walk several times a week. The Grampians regularly through the year. They're nice enough but having travelled around the world, through mountains, forests, jungles, across glaciers and oceans and between islands, the Victorian landscape is not, for me, awe inspiring in a global sense and much less inspiring than most other states in Australia. I will agree that it might "blow most away" if by most you mean the masses who rarely leave their 21st century bubble of artificiality or for individuals who have barely seen beyond the Victorian state line, but not many seasoned climbers or travelers would be knocked out by Victoria. It is a rather drab place on the whole. France is infinitely more impressive in my opinion. I'm silly to go on though. It's clearly completely subjective whether you dig Victoria or not and I just don't, while you do. Fair enough. Cheers, Karl

11:47:36 PM
After being in parts of India, Nepal, Thailand, NZ and some European countries I found that what we (AUS) lack in certain ways we are rich in many others. I think of the Victorian landscape as I do the rest of Australia and that is, that we are blessed in what we have and how much of it there is. I have travelled parts of Aus and OS not as a climber, but as a painter, so I guess I see / feel stuff most don't.
Yes there is some amazing stuff to see elsewhere in the world but the walk I did today with my 4yr old kid and dog to Scorpion rocks (Mt Alexander) was not a half bad day out.
But hey if Vic is no good for you there is always Tassie just a short boat ride away.
Karl Bromelow
7:38:45 AM
That's when I get the most out of walking through the Victorian landscape. When I too have my 4 year old boy by my side. It allows me to shed my grumpy cynicism and desires to get back on the road and to see this part of the world again through fresh eyes. Apologies if I sounded too down on this place. No offence intended. I think I am learning that Australians have a certain sensibility which is hard too share when you were not born and raised here. They are often utterly convinced of the magnificence of this country above all others, and good on them, why shouldn't they be? I think that some of these feelings are born out of coming to terms with the remoteness and enormity of the place. It is easier for Australians, psychologically, to cope with travelling for enormous distances without seeing any noticeable change in the landscape than it is for someone who comes from a land where variety is compressed in space and time. My aesthetic is different to yours and was molded by my own upbringing and subsequent experiences. I too am an artist and can easily be moved to tears by a drop of rain on a blade of grass if the mood takes me. I mean, I do have a feel for the natural world that can be overwhelming. When I find myself in Victorian climbing locations I am often confronted by views of enormous expanses of flat agricultural uniformity. I find it unattractive and as much of a blemish on the planet as the concrete and glass structures we live and work in.

I'm off to the snow today. Though the Victorian Alps fall well short of the sublime grandeur of mountains elsewhere in the world I will have a brilliant time sliding downhill with my little lad and he probably won't feel cheated just because he was in the French Alps with me in February this year. The snowgums do look cool against blue/white as the sun goes down too.

Anyway, that's this thread well and truly hijacked by my pointless and unhelpful ramblings. Sorry.

Cheers, Karl
8:35:18 AM
To continue the hijack...
Sure there is more scale and grandeur in the mountains overseas, but I reckon the Australian Alps are not that far behind in general. They are quite spectacular and the snow gum is far superior to those concentric pine trees.

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