I think this topic has deteriorated into nothing but personal attacks and I have deleted all replies.
I would also like Rock Weasel to withdraw his comment by editing his post in the "In The Gym" thread re Ben Cossey. Regardless of how anyone feels about anyone this public forum is not the place for personal attacks, or other such childishness.
From The Help:
Posts containing extremely offensive language, blatant racism, sexual harassment, or out right personal attacks on other forum members are unacceptable. On the other hand, light hearted banter, general cursing & expletives, and heated, confrontational debate is fine.
No TV for a week, all of you! :-)
Seriously, though, com'on, I haven't time for this. You want me to finish typing up 1.5 hours of audio with Louise Shepherd or waste my time teaching manners?